Snow And Ice In The Northern Hemisphere 2012/13

[thetonynator]

There is an idea/theory out there that the extensive loss of ice cover over the arctic might in turn increase levels of precipitation in the areas surrounding the arctic and because it's cold, this precipitation will fall as snow;

"Explosive snow cover often follows major ice loss"

Contradiction? It makes perfect sense to me. Pointless discussion. Ended

I don't think you understand what ''nail in the coffin'' means.

[Gavin Hannah]

The snow in Europe still there, and has expanded a little. Further gains in Scandinavia.

[Skeggy Winter Storm]

The snow in Europe still there, and has expanded a little. Further gains in Scandinavia.

lookin good

[Aaron]

Not sure where else to put this so will stick it here, but Nattavaara in northern Sweden fell to -22.1C on Sunday Morning. A temperature unimaginable to most in the UK any time of the year let alone October.

Edited October 30, 2012 by Aaron

[gottolovethisweather]

Further my previous post here showing the NH situation, below is the latest update from Cryosphere. EDIT: the previous post is showing a continously updated map so is not the original

Let us hope we can continue to build on this trend, at least for another few days. Thereafter, I will need to check the latest forecasts as there are some mixed signals from the Stratosphere right now. All in all, it has been an amazing few days and weeks, so why shouldn't all the fun and games continue into Winter.

Edited October 30, 2012 by gottolovethisweather

[carinthian]

Morning,

Beautiful winter landscape this morning. Snow cover widespread in the region down to 400m

[carinthian]

Morning,

Beautiful winter landscape this morning. Snow cover widespread in the region down to 400m

Hi Again,

That shot is looking west towards the Hohe Tauren National Park. That peak in the far horizon ( just right of center ) is Gross Glockner, the highest peak in Austria with its associated glaciers seen on the northern ridges.

C

[Gavin Hannah]

Just a couple of pics from GlenCoe and Cairngorm to show current snow status.

The Ptarmigan camera is offline so the view of Cairngorm is from Loch Morlich.

[Ice Day]

I know the comparison has been made a few times recently, but looking at yesterday vs the same day last year, the difference is remarkable. Scandinavia and the Southern Canadian states are amazingly different (accepting that Canada is due for a warm up at the end of the week)

[Gavin Hannah]

Ice is also markedly different. This years melt out has really taken it's toll.

[throwoff]

So people who understand all this more than me, what does it look like right now?

Is this like 2011 and we are going to get drips of the white stuff or are we closer to 2009/10?

[gottolovethisweather]

So people who understand all this more than me, what does it look like right now?

Is this like 2011 and we are going to get drips of the white stuff or are we closer to 2009/10?

This post from Mark Bayley sums it up pictorially.

http://forum.netweat...80#entry2392718

We are doing very very well when compared to the average but at the same time, need to sustain it into the month of November, more crucially.

For the latest expectations concerning November, check out my post in the Winter thread, which I have linked to below.

http://forum.netweat...00#entry2393645

Edited October 30, 2012 by gottolovethisweather

[Gavin Hannah]

GTLTW has hit the nail on the head. We need Nov to keep the momentum going so that as we enter Winter, we have the best prospects possible for snow and cold. On the other hand, if you are looking for warmth and a mild winter, you will be praying that the current setup will change rapidly to something more traditional. I.E something more favorable to an Atlantic westerly based pattern, or Euro high.

Edited October 30, 2012 by IBringTheHammer

[cheeky_monkey]

GTLTW has hit the nail on the head. We need Nov to keep the momentum going so that as we enter Winter, we have the best prospects possible for snow and cold. On the other hand, if you are looking for warmth and a mild winter, you will be praying that the current setup will change rapidly to something more traditional. I.E something more favorable to an Atlantic westerly based pattern, or Euro high.

it would be interesting to see the snow cover at this time preceding very mild winters like 88-89 or 2006-7

[Relativistic]

For comparison;

October 29th 2006:

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/ARCHIVE/EuAsia/2006/ims2006302_asiaeurope.gif

Yesterday:

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/ARCHIVE/EuAsia/2012/ims2012303_asiaeurope.gif

Sorry I can't just attach the images as I am on a mobile device, if someone could do so that would be great.

Edited October 30, 2012 by 22nov10blast

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

Sorry I can't just attach the images as I am on a mobile device, if someone could do so that would be great.

October 29th 2006:

Yesterday:

[Relativistic]

October 29th 2006:

Yesterday:

Thanks, more snow in Western Russia and Europe this year, although snowcover is still pretty extensive in 2006.

[Stratocumulus perlucidus]

What was 2006 winter like?

[Ben_Cambs]

What was 2006 winter like?

Very mild and wet with only a couple of cold snaps around mid-Jan and early-Feb.

[Aaron]

Followed by a good cold snap in March.

[Don]

What was 2006 winter like?

Winter 2006/7 was a stinker and was almost on a par with those of 1988/89 and 1989/90 were it not for the short cold snaps in January and February. That said, it produced more snow in my area than the following winter did.

Edited October 30, 2012 by Don

[Aaron]

It has gone unnoticed, but Oslo has had its first snowfall too

[Ice Day]

Not much of a change - A slight reduction through Europe. Scandinavia looking solid though, hopefully it will stick through the next few weeks!?

Edited October 30, 2012 by Ice Day

[Aaron]

Expect a lot of that snow to melt, Scandinavia is going to warm up.

[MKN]

Can't see much evidence of that Aaron, the 850's rise towards the end of the week for about 48hours but temps at the surface remain very close to freezing. After this though 850,s remain around -5 throughout the reliable time frame with more snow possible.