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Fantastic pictures GW. During the winter I often see something similar in the slaney valley on my way to work. It's like a snake of cloud going through the countryside. I've never got a picture(I'm usually late enough without stopping to take a few pics)

I think the only way a long range forecast or any weather forecast for that matter is a computer model that takes into account every single variable possible, no matter how small, of course it may be thousands of years before we know all of these variables. LRF's will get better gradually with time. if you look where the internet was 20 years ago and where it is now, theres no reason long range models can't go through the same transformation.

Since when have the odds ever had any effect on the weather? It's not exactly a teleconnection. We should just look at it as any other year and look at whats going to influence our weather patterns. Odds and statistics do not effect the year thats coming!

Cheers for the info paul! Tought i had a virus there for a minute , lol. Thanks

LOL i can barely speak irish never mind welsh, I edited them out but they looked like </br></br>, i seen them in other posts aswell

Yep it has happened to me too, tis a bit annoying! EDIT: What are all these weird letters appearing in my post?

LOL. The only evidence available suggest it is getting thicker. There is NO evidence to suggest is getting thinner. But the only evidence shows a substantial increase in ice thickness. Post facts that will counter my claims.

Hey Gray-Wolf!! Remember how you have been shouting on about ice thickness constantly over the last few years because ice extent has been contradicting your views. Well I presume you've never actually looked at thickness data because if you did you would see that ice has been getting THICKER!! I'm sure you never actually looked at the data because I doubt you would lie to us. US NAVY SAYS ICE IS GETTING THICKER: Ice Getting thicker! Facts win again!

Thanks NDS, Interesting to see a low of 0.6c at gurteen and a grass min of -1.9c at casement, both on the 30th.

I saw it too. There is a russian supply rocket up with it at the moment. AFAIK it was docking so it was running ahead of the ISS but at slower speed so the ISS wil catch up and then they will dock. I think it has to be done this way as the ISS can't change it's speed instantly but the rocket can, so if something went wrong the rocket could pull away in front, not possible if approaching from the rear.

To say that the north atlantic current is gone is very misleading , given the fact that has mearly just a small slow down, if anything those sattelite images show a pick up in the last 2 weeks. LOL, this will be added to the long line of scaremongering ploys that have taken palce in the last 10 years.

I'm afraid I think you fall into this category G.W

Are you having a laugh , we are still a above six million , by what method do you your arrive at the conclusion that sub 5 million is a given? Oh yeah... your method, that would explain it! EDIT: Put your cursor over where 5 million sqkm would be and then you would see the sort of totally unprecedented drop we would need to get there!

Thanks for the info NDS. With some the talk going on here over the last week or so , it was hard not to be worried that we would se a sub 4million km2. A few on here might have egg on their face alright , but I certainly doubt anybody will be dissapointed , or atleast I really hope they won't. If some on here are dissapointed that the arctic is doing better than expected , well then we should really not listen to anything they have to say!

It is also very important remember that it hasn't been this warm for 3000 in that particular area , this is not an idicator for an entire globe. For example some areas have seen cooling over the last 30 years , so if in 2000 years they warm up and snow patches are disvovered you can't say today was a very cold period in earth.