Thanks for the info NDS. With some the talk going on here over the last week or so , it was hard not to be worried that we would se a sub 4million km2. A few on here might have egg on their face alright , but I certainly doubt anybody will be dissapointed , or atleast I really hope they won't. If some on here are dissapointed that the arctic is doing better than expected , well then we should really not listen to anything they have to say!