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Posted
  • Location: Puddletown, Dorset
  • Location: Puddletown, Dorset

The stormiest seas in the world for that time period?

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Mapantz: But not in the North Sea / english Channel

 

Dave, best advice is a nice fried breakfast and then go up on deck wrapped up warm so you get fresh air and really enjoy looking forwards at the waves. The motion is detected by your inner ear but if your eyes can see whats happening your body is less confused. try and treat the motion as fun and you've won half the battle!

The other sure fire way to prevent sea sickness is to sit under a tree, works every time.

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  • Location: Eshaness, Shetland Islands
  • Weather Preferences: Cool and Stormy
  • Location: Eshaness, Shetland Islands

The Council here has issued a warning for Wednesday of an island shutdown, so no ferries or planes which is quite common during winter. The local weather office is expecting winds of 80mph +

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

Mapantz: But not in the North Sea / english Channel

 

Dave, best advice is a nice fried breakfast and then go up on deck wrapped up warm so you get fresh air and really enjoy looking forwards at the waves. The motion is detected by your inner ear but if your eyes can see whats happening your body is less confused. try and treat the motion as fun and you've won half the battle!

The other sure fire way to prevent sea sickness is to sit under a tree, works every time.

 

 

love that last bit-really made me chuckle

But then some of these ridiculous sized liners quite possibly do have trees on them!

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  • Location: Torrington, Devon
  • Weather Preferences: storms - of the severe kind
  • Location: Torrington, Devon

they do ,on the shopping plazas :)....

Pretty sure, they'd have a Christmas Tree, at this time of year

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  • Location: on a canal , probably near Northampton...
  • Weather Preferences: extremes n snow
  • Location: on a canal , probably near Northampton...

still not much detail on this one, and another warning now out for Thursday into Friday which will receive far more coverage as it is hitting the South.

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  • Location: North of Falkirk
  • Weather Preferences: North Atlantic cyclogenesis
  • Location: North of Falkirk

Yes, distinct lack of chat about this system. 

 

It's currently off SE Greenland at 959mb and will deepen further to possibly 935-940mb. 

 

Satellite imagery shows it quite well and will soon topple the high pressure. 

 

12z run suggests storms for the north.

 

50ft waves around the west coast.

 

 

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  • Location: cleethorpes
  • Location: cleethorpes

Sorry should not been ignorant.  Been following this as I was worried that it may cause storm surge.  Thank lucky stars that black not down the north sea.  But very worried for those in its target. I have read possibly 100 ft waves potential :shok:  . 

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  • Location: Dunoon, Argyll Scotland
  • Location: Dunoon, Argyll Scotland

Tuesday all the way to Friday is looking stormy for a lot of places.

 

Tuesday 3am to 12pm - Northern Ireland and Scotland especially in the North West see gusts ranging from 50 to 70mph from the South West there is a chance that some exposed parts in the North West of Scotland could see 80mph.

 

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Snow is likely to fall over the Scottish Highlands during the morning.

 

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The sea conditions are still fairly calm at this point but the North West see's a 16 to 20ft swell developing.

 

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Tuesday 3pm to Wednesday 12am - Strong gusty winds become widespread over all of Ireland and the UK at this point mostly ranging from 35 to 45mph with exposed parts 50 to 60mph gusts.

 

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Snow is still expected to fall over the Scottish Highlands through the afternoon and into the evening.

 

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Northern sea's start to become more rough with a swell of 18 to 22ft and the West develops a 24 to 28ft swell some very rough sea conditions.

 

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Wednesday 3am to Thursday 9am - We now enter a long spell of very windy weather. Over Ireland and Scotland gusts range from 50 to 70mph with a chance of there being at times in exposed locations 85mph. Northern England and Wales 40 to 50mph gusts and the rest of England 35 to 45mph gusts.

 

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While the best of the wintry weather will be in Scotland it does look like it could extend down into Ireland, Wales and parts of Northern England.

 

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The sea conditions all day on Wednesday will be extremely rough in the West and especially in the North West with a swell height of 50ft and more.

 

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On Thursday morning it does calm down a bit but still some very rough sea conditions in the West and North as the swell ranges from 20 to 38ft.

 

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Thursday 12pm to Friday 9am - Thursday will still be a windy day for the UK and Ireland gusts will range from 35 to 55mph still and some of the strong winds will be further South this time as well.

 

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The models are still a bit unsure on this but on Friday morning strong winds 60 and maybe even 70mph gusts come up the English Channel.

 

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Most of the wintry weather stays in the North.

 

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The sea conditions continue to calm down but still stays rough in the far North.

 

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  • Location: Tiree
  • Location: Tiree

CNES Press Release - 8 December 2013
Agencies On Weather Alert 
The multi-agency Emergency Planning Group for the Western Isles, WIEPCG, met today to discuss the severe weather forecast for the Islands from Tuesday 9 December to Thursday 11th December.
The Met Office have issued a Yellow Alert of Wind valid from 21:00 on Tue, 09th Dec 2014 until 06:00 on Thu, 11th Dec 2014.

A flood alert has also been issued for the Western Isles :
‘This alert is for coastal flooding. Very high waves are expected to affect the area from Tuesday morning. Exposed coastal areas including roads, causeways and low lying properties may be at risk from flooding due to wave overtopping particularly during periods of high tide.’

Police and CnES Roads will be monitoring Uist causeways and The Bràighe in Lewis.

The severe weather may cause further disruption to services. Updates will be provided via the Public Information section of the Comhairle’s website including any school closures or disruption to transport.

Twitter: @cne_siar 
WIEPCG are on Facebook where information will also be updated as appropriate.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Warnings removed for us but bizarrely one for Friday for strong winds. I reckon that will go shortly.

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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
  • Weather Preferences: Warm and sunny with night time t-storms
  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)

Thanks for your reply. It does not look too bad.

 

 

Kind Regards

 

Dave

Thank you 

 

Unfortunately we do not have a choice. We are on a 4 day coach trip to the German Christmas Markets.

 

 

Kind Regards

 

Dave

Sorry, I didn't appreciate your predicament! I'm guessing from the discussion on here and elsewhere that it will probably be a little rough on Friday. I'm very prone to travel sickness too and I sympathise. Travel sickness medicines usually make me feel worse, so I stick to natural remedies like ginger and accupressure bands. Nibbling ginger biscuits is good as the sugar helps as well as the ginger's anti-emetic effect. And above all as others have said, make sure your wife eats a good low GI type meal before travelling - something like porridge or toast or pasta depending on the time of day is good - as low blood sugar makes nausea worse, plenty of water and no alcohol needless to say. I've just about avoided the barf bag during quite a few very bumpy flights this year with this regime. I'm sure you'll both be fine and have a lovely time...

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  • Location: Dorset
  • Weather Preferences: warehamwx.co.uk
  • Location: Dorset

I was going to make a post regarding the potential for gales across southern areas later this week but I've had a busy day. Anyway, the MO are on to it with warnings. 50 to 60mph quite widely, 70mph+ on Irish sea & English channel coasts.

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  • Location: Dunmow, Essex (72m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: Anything apart from grey days
  • Location: Dunmow, Essex (72m asl)
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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

I hope this may be of some use to new folk trying to grasp what is happening

 

Just to show where the surface low and how it fits in with the upper air pattern, some links below, and then to the 48 hours prediction.

First where the low is at 12z today, not a simple low as there are two centres shown

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavneur.html

Below is the 200mb chart showing the jet stream and note that the low(s) is situated on the left hand side of the jet, the left exit area you will hear forecasters talking about. This tends to be area where surface features can deepen quite markedly, where surface items and the upper atmosphere from there up to the tropopause interact together to cause this.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavneur.html

 

The Met O Fax chart for the same time below

http://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm

Quite a difference in how they analyse the central pressure here

 

Taking it on 48h with the same charts showing to illustrate what is likely to happen

Surface chart from GFS

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavneur.html

Not that different to the Met Fax chart

and the 200mb chart

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavneur.html

 

Met O Fax for T+48h

http://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm#t48

So a general movement west to east and as is normal with low centres the strongest winds are in the SW quadrant.

 

So forecasters are then left with just what actual track, how deep, how tight the isobars will be as it affects the NW’ern parts of the UK.

For a satellite view in infra red the link below gives a first class view of how it has moved in the past 24 hours and is a good site to bookmark for future watching.

http://www.yr.no/satellitt/europa_animasjon.html

 

I hope this is some help in what to look for in similar situations for new folk. Don’t expect the fine detail on wind strengths and especially on precipitation amounts and areas to be decided until quite close to the actual time of occurrence. Even now with super computers and human intervention from highly experienced forecasters things can still not work out quite as expected.

Finally, re the snow that may or may not fall on your garden at some point this winter, take a look at this link to see just how complex it is. We are at times unable to get the much more simple prediction of rainfall so no wonder snowfall is so much more difficult.

https://forum.netweather.tv/topic/27989-how-to-try-and-forecast-snow/

and within that link are some very useful guides on how to ‘read’ the GFS and other model outputs, what the abbreviations mean and much much more

Enjoy the weather and this web site-try and be kind to one another and not have personal digs!

 

jh

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria

Quite a good blow coming up for the N'rn half of the UK on Wednesday, nothing unusual but very windy nonetheless with potential for some local disruption. Still a degree of uncertainty regarding the end of the week. 

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  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic storms, severe gales, blowing snow and frost :)
  • Location: Carlisle, Cumbria

is a sting jet possible with wednesdays system ?

I doubt it as it will have gone past the rapidly deepening stage and will be slowly filling by the time the depression passes close to the UK, still a potent storm though. 

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