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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.

As winter has gone on I have found myself disagreeing with som aspects of this blog and just had a quick breeze through and find myself disagreeing again. There was a significant strat warming but no SSW for a start....

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  • Location: Weymouth, Dorset
  • Location: Weymouth, Dorset

As winter has gone on I have found myself disagreeing with som aspects of this blog and just had a quick breeze through and find myself disagreeing again. There was a significant strat warming but no SSW for a start....

He does emphasise it was a minor SSW though, which by WMO definition, it was.

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  • Location: Brighton (currently)
  • Location: Brighton (currently)

As winter has gone on I have found myself disagreeing with som aspects of this blog and just had a quick breeze through and find myself disagreeing again. There was a significant strat warming but no SSW for a start....

According to the blog, they expect to see the effects of the warming continuing throughout February with a -AO.

What do you think?

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  • Location: Surrey and SW France.
  • Location: Surrey and SW France.

As winter has gone on I have found myself disagreeing with som aspects of this blog and just had a quick breeze through and find myself disagreeing again. There was a significant strat warming but no SSW for a start....

 

There seems to be a lot of confusion among the professionals on just what the terminology indicates. This article from the Danish Met Institute has also classed the warming as a SSW.

 

 

Weather in Denmark can come from any direction. This time it is the rather unusual 'from above'.

There are frequently very cold stratospheric winter in northern latitudes. Sometimes we observe, however, a rapid and strong heating - a so-called 'sudden stratospheric warming'. The stratosphere is that portion of the atmosphere which lies between about 10 and 50 kilometers above the earth's surface.

"A beautiful example of a sudden stratospheric warming has just taken place," explains senior researcher at DMI Bo Christiansen.

 

Google translated version.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmi.dk%2Fnyheder%2Farkiv%2Fnyheder-2015%2F01%2Fforaar-i-stratosfaeren-truer-danmark-med-vinter%2F&edit-text=

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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.

There seems to be a lot of confusion among the professionals on just what the terminology indicates. This article from the Danish Met Institute has also classed the warming as a SSW.

 

 

Google translated version.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmi.dk%2Fnyheder%2Farkiv%2Fnyheder-2015%2F01%2Fforaar-i-stratosfaeren-truer-danmark-med-vinter%2F&edit-text=

The sooner that it is clarified the better, and I can't wait for the conclusions of the working body. I have not seen a scientist on the strat email list or working body describe the event as a SSW.

 

I have in my own mind exactly what a SSW is - that is reversal of mean zonal winds at 60ºN and 10 hPa ( with a reversal of the usual temp gradient towards the pole). Anything else is a warming of the strat - I don't like the term minor either because other warmings can be quite significant. For the AER blog to use the term SSW throughout their blog with only informing us that it was a minor one towards the end is misleading in my opinion. They should have stated right at the beginning, that even though that the recent warming may only be classified as minor, it was/will be significant enough to have significant troposheric effects. Now that I would be happy with.

 

 

 

Sometimes I wish that I could re classify the whole structure of strat warmings and events because I have a clear cut idea of what that classification should show.

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  • Location: Edinburgh (previously Chelmsford and Birmingham)
  • Weather Preferences: Unseasonably cold weather (at all times of year), wind, and thunderstorms.
  • Location: Edinburgh (previously Chelmsford and Birmingham)

That section of the paper doesn't describe a 'bounce-back' of zonal flow as measured at a constant latitude eg 60°N.

It describes wave-breaking and to understand it take a look at geostrophic or gradient flow. As the zonal wind is decelerated the flow becomes unbalanced allowing the pressure force to cause meridional flow towards the pole. As it moves northwards the flow is accelerated by the Coriolis force, becomes more westerly again and the zonal flow is re-established at a higher latitude (assisted also by temperature changes). This is the balancing of geostrophic flow and to imagine it more simply it is the anticyclonic flow like round the northern side (northern hemisphere) of an area of high pressure.

Then they describe the meridional flow towards the pole causing sinking and adiabatic warming of air and in very basic terms this is what causes the sudden warming. What is important to remember is that the Eulerian zonal and meridional coordinates only consider two dimensions. Whilst there are these components of the wind following geopotential height contours for example, stratospheric flow over short time-scales is adiabatic and has a vertical component as it follows heights of equal potential temperature up and down. This is isentropic flow, brief description - http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/theta/theta_info.shtml

More detailed - http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/tmurphy/Teaching/ATS452_SynopticMeteorology/Lecture/04152013_Isentropic_3.pdf

 

Although the second link uses an example from the troposphere it stresses the following -

 

Important point:

 

Air DOES NOT follow the pressure surfaces (constant height charts we normally use)
 
Can not say what happened will just move on to another point on that same map
 
The air at that point will not be at that pressure surface for any length of time… instead traveling up and down isentropes to different pressure surfaces
 
This consideration is implicit to a Lagrangian approach compared to the fixed coordinate Eulerian view.

 

Thanks, another informative reply :)

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans

Yesterday's Berlin data seems to show a wave 1 increase shifting the core of the upper/mid vortex well into Siberia. a large N American block.

The 00z run looks similar if not more pronounced. (And more notably, gfs op sees it the same way)

The zonal flow having picked up retreats back to low levels as soon as this wave 1 drifts down from atop.

I'm sure that ed and Andrew will put some meat on these bones but a downwelling of the pattern into the trop would be most welcome for coldies. No doubt, a sudden unexpected wave 2 will appear to split and leave a Greenland daughter! (That was irony btw)

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  • Location: Netherlands
  • Location: Netherlands

  • The downward propagation of negative AO conditions in the stratosphere should begin to influence the tropospheric circulation in about a week. Therefore, we anticipate positive AO conditions to trend more negative the second half of January. This will promote more high latitude blocking and colder temperatures hemispherically for the remainder of the month.  The biggest change should be felt across northern Eurasia including Europe, where temperatures should turn significantly colder from what has been observed so far this month.
  • Prospects for a negative AO remain fairly high into February given the recent and ongoing weakening of the stratospheric polar vortex, though some uncertainty on timing and the eventual strength of the negative AO state still remains.

Typically following a SSW, the AO turns more negative in the lower stratosphere and eventually throughout the troposphere within 2 weeks. The negative phase of the tropospheric AO is then favored for 1-2 months following a SSW.  Though the warming is only defined as a minor SSW based on the WMO definition of SSWs, the SSW did result in a daily-record warm temperature in the stratospheric polar cap at 10 hPa and thus is a significant event in the stratosphere. The operational models predict that the polar vortex will remain perturbed in the near-term with recovery possible during this period.  Therefore, we expect a negative bias in the near-surface AO, which should lead to increased frequency of high altitude blocking and cold temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere continents this period.

One caveat in this long-term AO forecast involves the current hemispheric circulation pattern. So far this winter, deep low pressure in the Barents-Kara seas has persisted, and models have had a very difficult time predicting its evolution. This feature is more associated with a positive AO/NAO than a negative AO. Hence, should this feature persist even longer, the transition to the negative phase of the near-surface AO would be difficult (it destructively interferes with a canonical negative AO circulation pattern).  The models once again are predicting for the polar low in the Barents Kara seas to be absorbed into polar lows in the more climatologically favored regions of Eastern Siberia and Hudson Bay (Figure 5).  We have seen this movie before with the Barents-Kara seas polar low only to return.  However the ongoing SSW favors a change in the pattern more so going forward than has been observed so far this winter.

Longer Term

30–day

Based on the SSW in early January, we continue to favor the negative state of the near-surface AO into middle and the end of February. This would increase the chances for more cold air outbreaks across northern Eurasia including Europe, and Central and Eastern North America during February. We have included our seasonal forecast for Northern Hemisphere temperature anomalies for January, February and March 2015 (Figure 6) that was issued in early DecemberWe continue to favor the overall cold forecast as averaged for the season, though observed temperature anomalies can deviate regionally and temporally through the season (e.g., the anticipated cold spell coming to Europe following a seasonable to seasonably mild December and early January).

 

From Cohen's blog http://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation

The zonal flow having picked up retreats back to low levels as soon as this wave 1 drifts down from atop.

 

 

I really try to understand what you mean with this? Can you explain a little bit more? Thanks!

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

Yesterday's Berlin data seems to show a wave 1 increase shifting the core of the upper/mid vortex well into Siberia. a large N American block.

The 00z run looks similar if not more pronounced. (And more notably, gfs op sees it the same way)

The zonal flow having picked up retreats back to low levels as soon as this wave 1 drifts down from atop.

I'm sure that ed and Andrew will put some meat on these bones but a downwelling of the pattern into the trop would be most welcome for coldies. No doubt, a sudden unexpected wave 2 will appear to split and leave a Greenland daughter! (That was irony btw)

 

Are those charts up to date BA?, they aren't updating on my computer, but it could be my computer because de bilt among other things I have struggled with lately.

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans

Are those charts up to date BA?, they aren't updating on my computer, but it could be my computer because de bilt among other things I have struggled with lately.

Jeez, I got caught out.!

Not updated yesterday. Tony posted the heights from yesterday above.

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  • Location: Weymouth, Dorset
  • Location: Weymouth, Dorset

Maybe a mile off but looking at the u winds charts through Jan and I am wondering if the E-QBO worked against us in a perverse way. There was quite a strong poleward surge of Easterlies at around mid strat level earlier this month, getting us far north as around 40N. This left a small area of persistent wind reversals around this area, still present. This has seemingly forced zonal winds downwards at higher latitude than may otherwise have occurred. Did this help scupper a full SSW I wonder?

As it is forecast to finally abate so the finger of zonal wind drops back equatorwards allowing the more benign looking zonal profile where we want it.

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Maybe a mile off but looking at the u winds charts through Jan and I am wondering if the E-QBO worked against us in a perverse way. There was quite a strong poleward surge of Easterlies at around mid strat level earlier this month, getting us far north as around 40N. This left a small area of persistent wind reversals around this area, still present. This has seemingly forced zonal winds downwards at higher latitude than may otherwise have occurred. Did this help scupper a full SSW I wonder?

As it is forecast to finally abate so the finger of zonal wind drops back equatorwards allowing the more benign looking zonal profile where we want it.

 

That is the wind due to the wave 2 pattern, if you look at the current Berlin 10mb chart for example there are two large high geopotential areas causing predominantly easterly mean zonal winds at around 40°N which can be seen in the zonal wind chart.

Look at the last couple of geopotential charts, wave 2 pattern has gone and so has the 40°N easterly.

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  • Location: St Albans, 95m asl
  • Location: St Albans, 95m asl

Sorry if I'm a bit slow to this, but I notice that Meteociel have now added the GEFS ensemble mean 10mb temperature (Sylvain - PLEASE add heights :) )

 

Very strong mean signal toward the end of the run for this:

 

gensnh-21-7-384.png

 

All pressure on the vortex is good pressure, though lets hope this isn't correlated to the position of any geopotential wave pushing - it would be just our luck to get a Wave 1 displacement from the USA over to the Siberian sector, and then 5 days later get a Wave 1 push from 180 degrees opposite and push the vortex right back over the pole!

 

SK

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans

Sorry if I'm a bit slow to this, but I notice that Meteociel have now added the GEFS ensemble mean 10mb temperature (Sylvain - PLEASE add heights :) )

 

Very strong mean signal toward the end of the run for this:

 

 

 

All pressure on the vortex is good pressure, though lets hope this isn't correlated to the position of any geopotential wave pushing - it would be just our luck to get a Wave 1 displacement from the USA over to the Siberian sector, and then 5 days later get a Wave 1 push from 180 degrees opposite and push the vortex right back over the pole!

 

SK

 

all the evidence points to the vortex ending up in siberia by day 10 with a profile that would have us dribbling if it were to repeat in the trop.

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

Near to a technical SSW.

 

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-strat.php?run=2015011800&var=HGT&lev=10mb&hour=384

 

 

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  • Location: st albans
  • Location: st albans

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At 10hpa where it is measured, pretty well - yes. And a displacement SSW like this would be good for coldies if it downwells quickly. if it downwells v slowly then Spring could be very delayed this year.

What is encouraging from my perspective is that ECM and gfs ops are both looking the same at day 10.

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

What is encouraging from my perspective is that ECM and gfs ops are both looking the same at day 10.

 

Plus although the GEFS mean isn't quite as aggressive with the warming (you wouldn't expect it to be at that range), it is on the same lines wrt placement of the vortex.

 

gfsensnh10hgt384.gif

 

 

 

Or rather displacement should I say!

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  • Location: Cwmbran. South East Wales 300ft ASL
  • Location: Cwmbran. South East Wales 300ft ASL

Was this warming forecast??? Are we looking at a pleasant surprise here? So hopefully the ramifications of this will feed into the trop quickly and the heart of winter will reep the benefits for us in the uk.

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