Been a great argument going on over on the model output thread between snowballz and no balls.it has been on the wrong thread but thats another thing.
They both seem intelligent people but to me one is arguing for the models as a predictive tool and the other is not, Surely this is a non argument as the models are simply the scientific community's tool for trying to predict the weather, yes they have a long way to go but they are slowly, very slowly getting there. To write off the inaccuracy in there verification as simply the weather being the weather is missing the point altogether.
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