This thread is a bit of mixed bag today, not all of it actually discussing the models. So I’ll take the opportunity to say something about the thread (not the models), that has irritated me for most of the winter. I look at the model discussion thread a lot, and invariably the most informative posts are those made without a preconceived bias. By this I mean those posters who do not approach their analysis from an almost obsessive desire to see what they want, be it warm, cold, windy stormy etc. I’ve learnt a lot from those who make genuine attempts to say, and sometimes second guess, what they see, and thanks to all of you. To the rest, no amount of wishing, or judgmental criticism, will get you what you want. Only what the weather actually brings, like today I hope, can do that. We also serve, who only sit and read.