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[polarlow2]

Hi all,
I'm trying to find out a bit about the heavy snow that affected London in late 2003 - I think maybe Thursday January 31? It stands out in my mind because it appeared to be very poorly forecast.
The night before, the BBC predicted light snow showers affecting the south-east the next afternoon. In the event, where I lived at the time, in Dollis Hill, north-west London, we got an absolute hammering.
The snow began about 2pm I think, and got gradually heavier, continuing until about 9pm, leaving about five inches or so, in a really strong wind. My gut instinct tells me it must have been some sort of Thames streamer, given that the winds were from the north-east - can anyone shed any light?
It was a fantastic snowfall anyway, at the time the most snow I'd seen since 1991.

[Thundery wintry showers]

You are probably recalling the northerly outbreak on the 30th January 2003, when a slight easterly component to the airflow helped bring heavy snow showers and some longer spells of snow inland from East Anglia and into London:
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[polarlow2]

Many thanks, that is indeed the one. Am I right in saying there was more snow in the south-east than was expected? It doesn't often get talked about so I was wondering if the heavier snow was restricted to northern suburbs of London.

[Thundery wintry showers]

I can't remember if it affected south London but in Weather Log Philip Eden mentions "a sudden fall of 5-10cm in north London". The forecasts prior to the event generally envisaged snow showers for the usual North Sea areas in northerly flows, and underestimated how far south and west the snowfalls penetrated.

[Optimus Prime]

Nope the snow spread fairly well west. had about 4 CM and a very strong, biting Northerly wind that day. Temperature rose to the best part of 1c during the whole day. Snowshowers and gale force winds dominated most of the afternoon and windchill was around -9c.

[danm]

Remember this quite well. I was in my first year of A-Level's at the time. It snowed very intensely and several cm's fell in a short space of time during the evening rush hour. This was the famous event where the forecasters and gritters were caught out resulting in drivers being stuck in their cars all night on the M11 as it hadn't been gritted at all.

[damianslaw]

January 2003 despite being a mild month overall did bring two snowy outbreaks - one right at the end and one around the 8th I believe which brought a couple of inches of snow to central london - the first for a number of years.

[Snow? norfolk n chance]

dont think i got any then, but the cheshire gap snow of 3-5 Feb was good, not had snow from the cheshire gap that good since

[danm]

damianslaw, on 24 January 2012 - 21:24 , said:

January 2003 despite being a mild month overall did bring two snowy outbreaks - one right at the end and one around the 8th I believe which brought a couple of inches of snow to central london - the first for a number of years.

Yep, a Thames streamer set up on 8th January 2003. I was still in school back then in my first year of 6th form in Chigwell, which is on the border of SW Essex and NE London. Got to school by about 830ish, it was cold, dry and cloudy. By about 9 heavy snow started to fall and lasted right through until mid-afternoon. It was very heavy, and in that part of London/Essex, about 5 to 6 inches of snow fell. At that point, it was the heaviest snow central London had seen since Feb 1991 - i think the centre of London had about 3 inches of lying snow.

It takes a lot for snow to settle significantly in central London as it's so crowded and built up. Having lived in London all my life, i've seen many times when we've had snow where it has barely settled in central London, but as soon as you drive or take the train 15-20mins into the suburbs there is lying snow. Then came the Feb 2009 event, which became the heaviest snowfall for London since Feb 1991. Last winter also saw thick lying snow in central London - very rare as i've said - but it wasn't as much as the Feb 2009 event, simply because in Feb 2009 the heavy snow lasted all night from a streamer, whereas in December 2010, although the snow was very heavy and intense, wasn't from a streamer and snow only fell for about 3-4 hours rather than the whole night as it did in 2009.

Edited by danm, 25 January 2012 - 13:46 .

[Mr_Data]

[Snow? norfolk n chance]

Mr_Data, on 13 February 2012 - 19:31 , said:

Had a bit on thursday 9th, but wish bbc tv weather was still like this

[polarlow2]

Mr Data you are a legend for posting these videos! I actually remember this forecast well.

Do you have any from the later cold spell of January 2003?

[Mr_Data]

polarlow2, on 13 February 2012 - 23:20 , said:

Mr Data you are a legend for posting these videos! I actually remember this forecast well.

Do you have any from the later cold spell of January 2003?

Yes, I have including the exceptionally mild "snap" that preceded it.

[Mr_Data]

[Suburban Streamer]

I remember this event well (the first of the two). Started while I was at work really heavy they told us to go home early so around 4.30 I left but traffic was already gridlocked. I was only working 8 miles from my house but it took me 6 and half hours to get home! Was the scariest car journey of my life. Roads were so icey, pedestrians just standing there watching me slide towards them while I'm shouting "get out the way I've got no control". Then stuck on a hill for ages until some kind east Europeans guys pushed me up the hill.....would prob still be there if it wasn't for them lol. Brilliant snow event but very scary roads!

[Joneseye]

Ah I remember this well too! I was working for the AA at the time and we covered most of the South East of England. The timing and intensity of it caught a lot of people out including the gritters. The ensuing gridlock on the M1, A1M, M11 and M25 meant that we were unable to get to a lot of the broken down vehicles and a lot of people abandoned their cars. I left work at 0330 that night and we still had a few hundred breakdowns still to attend.

This event and the Thundersnow of Jan 2004 serve as a reminder of how just how easy it is for our road infrastructure to grind to a halt.

[Mr_Data]

[Portland Paul]

My memories are somewhat poor here, but I remember a thin covering of icy lying snow at the end of January 2003, in south-west Birmingham. The Cheshire gap snow was quite impressive on the 5th February (I think), with several hours of snow falling and accumulating to about 7 cm (as, incidentally I watched a male wren building his nest in ivy, ready for his bride to be )
Including one of the mildest Christmasses on record, the 2002- 3 winter experienced temperatures up and down like a yo-yo, with some severe frosts but some mild sunny days too, especially later on, as it led into the sunniest March on record in much of the UK.
This up and down winter (temperature-wise) struck me as an unsually dry and sunny season, and with a fair amount of southerly and easterly winds, and much less dull version of the 1995 - 6 winter.
The following 2003 - 4 winter also exhibited a somewhat yo-yo temperature regime, and was IMO, a diverse winter. Interestingly, February 2004 was the sixth most northerly February on record, yet was slightly milder than average.

[polarlow2]

Cracking stuff Mr Data. I remember those forecasts well, it was only at the very last minute that the BBC changed their forecasts to something a bit more urgent. A lesser remembered snowfall for many but, in my neck of the woods at least, a little beauty!