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#41 trisnow

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:24

View PostChartViewer, on 13 January 2012 - 18:20 , said:

Out to T96 now knife edge stuff
Really? At t96 I am seeing Friday 00z? thought I should be seeing 12z Friday.. I am new to this

#42 coldwinter

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:25

Link to meteciel chart viewer:
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#43 THE EYE IN THE SKY

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:27

Better agreement from the Aberdeen ensembles of it turning colder from the 19th.

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Slightly less agreement further S.

http://cdn.nwstatic....bridgeshire.png

Starting to get a clearer picture of what may happen. Shall explain after i've viewed the ECM.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:27

View Postcoldwinter, on 13 January 2012 - 18:25 , said:

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Eh yes thats what im viewing
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#45 ukpaul

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:27

View Postdanm, on 13 January 2012 - 18:25 , said:

Looks like a slightly "less good" ECM out to t120 so far.

The pattern seem to be marginally flatter, with less ridging.

Those are for two different times, twelve hours apart, there should be notable differences.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:28

Azores high closer to the UK on the ECM, less amplified and trending more towards the GFS!
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#47 coldwinter

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:28

View PostChartViewer, on 13 January 2012 - 18:27 , said:

Eh yes thats what im viewing
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:31

View Postukpaul, on 13 January 2012 - 18:27 , said:

Those are for two different times, twelve hours apart, there should be notable differences.

Yep just noticed that myself. apologies.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:32

View Postdanm, on 13 January 2012 - 18:31 , said:

Yep just noticed that myself. apologies.

And t144 is on target. Atantic wedge ridging upto Greenland meeting artic High wedge, SW ejecting into SE Europe.....looking good PV split and main bit sent to Canada

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Edited by BLAST FROM THE PAST, 13 January 2012 - 18:36 .

Perturbation cycle, -ve PDO phase playing havoc with the background signals which are supposed to bring a flat and mild pattern. It is IMO clear we are in a new cycle and that the jet is more south, more amplified and that the chances of cold winters or very cold periods in winter are enhanced....


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:33

http://www.meteoc
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:34

View Posttrisnow, on 13 January 2012 - 18:19 , said:

When would the new ECm start showing on here please? http://www.netweathe...ction=ecm;sess=
Is it nearer 7pm? Thanks

The netweather ecm viewer will update when the run is complete, some may say it's better that way!
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#52 danm

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:34

View PostBLAST FROM THE PAST, on 13 January 2012 - 18:32 , said:

And t144 is on target. Atantic wedge ridging upto Greenland meeting artic High wedge, SW ejecting into SE Europe.....looking good

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Yep, ECM sticking to it's guns out to t144:
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Ridging up to Greenland, amplified pattern as it was on the 0z.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:35

View PostBLAST FROM THE PAST, on 13 January 2012 - 18:32 , said:

And t144 is on target. Atantic wedge ridging upto Greenland meeting artic High wedge, SW ejecting into SE Europe.....looking good

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Last post for a while in the MO thread from me but no Fred,the ECM has backtracked significantly this evening.
The high is going to get flattened by the northern arm,i should IMO b/c that sounds arrogant.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:35

View PostBLAST FROM THE PAST, on 13 January 2012 - 18:32 , said:

And t144 is on target. Atantic wedge ridging upto Greenland meeting artic High wedge, SW ejecting into SE Europe.....looking good

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Sorry but no....Flatter Azores ridge.....half hearted ridge to Greenland and back by 24 hours....Cant see that myself...It may verify later but that azores ridge at T144 is def flatter than the previous run sorry.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:35

Fail to see the despondency with regards to the ecm +144 looks great to me and can only go one way from here ! The model saga continues until the pub run and the 00z.
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Snow : 1 ( 30-01-2012 on and off snow snizzle not amounting but after a bad winter so far snow none the less )
Sleet : 1

All change come February me thinks...

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:38

Out to 168+ and here comes the cold...


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Winter 2011/2012 :

Frosts : 9
Snow : 1 ( 30-01-2012 on and off snow snizzle not amounting but after a bad winter so far snow none the less )
Sleet : 1

All change come February me thinks...

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:38

ecm 12z loses the high heights around svaalbard T144. there are differences and the transition to T168 is going to tell us a fair bit. JMA has the trough and looks ok as a variaiton on a theme

note the small shortwave left behind east of iceland. that been showing consistently on the ens as energy headed south after the trough drops in. any noreaster will prob have to wait for this. the 12z looks a bit colder than the 00z.

Edited by bluearmy, 13 January 2012 - 18:41 .


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:38

T+168 still looking quite promising. Azores high placement is a little flatter but cold still streaming down from the north.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:40

View Postwinter watcher, on 13 January 2012 - 18:35 , said:

Fail to see the despondency with regards to the ecm +144 looks great to me and can only go one way from here ! The model saga continues until the pub run and the 00z.

T168 is fine but its been put back...My moneys on the GFS to win this by a country mile and its 18z will confirm the ECM backtrack tonight.


ECM will continue to show T168 charts...expect it to backtrack in its T00 tmw


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Posted 13 January 2012 - 18:41

View PostChartViewer, on 13 January 2012 - 18:40 , said:

T168 is fine but its been put back...My moneys on the GFS to win this by a country mile and its 18z will confirm the ECM backtrack tonight.


ECM will continue to show T168 charts...expect it to backtrack in its T00 tmw


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Please explain your reasoning if you're going to make such bold statements. The ECM is pretty much sticking to it's gun so far. I see little change out to t168 compared to the 0z.
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