634 replies to this topic

[Milhouse]

Aaron, on 09 May 2012 - 08:14 , said:

By August there is a sense of decay? I have never read such rubbish. You complain about lack of heat yet you say by August, the second warmest month of the year and holds the UK national record, there is a sense of decay? Well you will never be pleased, ever.

I mean decay in the contryside. A hot day in June with everywhere bursting with colour has more appeal than a hot day in late August with the fields brown. I guess its the reminder that Autumn is fast approaching.

Edited by Milhouse, 09 May 2012 - 13:03 .

[hedgehog4]

Milhouse, on 09 May 2012 - 13:01 , said:

I mean decay in the contryside. A hot day in June with everywhere bursting with colour has more appeal than a hot day in late August with the fields brown. I guess its the reminder that Autumn is fast approaching.

August is perhaps being a bit early though for your description ... late September is when your description of the countryside comes into full swing.
August is Summer ... no question about it ... you wouldn't say that you can see the early warnings that Spring is arriving when it's January.

[Downburst]

hedgehog4, on 09 May 2012 - 16:01 , said:

August is perhaps being a bit early though for your description ... late September is when your description of the countryside comes into full swing.
August is Summer ... no question about it ... you wouldn't say that you can see the early warnings that Spring is arriving when it's January.

In August the leaves turn a darker green. some dropping off already, damaged ones etc and the evenings get darker, there is a different light for certain, both directly from the Sun and in it's reflection off plants. Summer flowers begin to fade away and many go to seed, not all but a lot. Yes it is a great month but it doesn't have the light or promise that May and June have. A good May is a magical time for nature and observing it. Fills you and the land with energy, August is the late middle age of the Summer, May is a youthful period, a precious time that when it is missed is a pity.

[Snow? norfolk n chance]

Any other springs where warmest max has been in March? sofar my highest max is 20.9C on 28th Mar, although not finished May yet, just wondered if its ever happened

[Aaron]

Max so far here 22.1C in March, max higher in March than in May AND April? Creepy

[reef]

We actually recorded the warmest max of the spring so far yesterday when it reached a suprisingly high 20.6C.

Certainly to record the warmest spring temperature in March has never happened here in the 32 springs I have records for, though April occasionally manages it (2007 and 2011 were the most recent).

[Snowy Easterly]

Downburst, on 09 May 2012 - 16:19 , said:

In August the leaves turn a darker green. some dropping off already, damaged ones etc and the evenings get darker, there is a different light for certain, both directly from the Sun and in it's reflection off plants. Summer flowers begin to fade away and many go to seed, not all but a lot. Yes it is a great month but it doesn't have the light or promise that May and June have. A good May is a magical time for nature and observing it. Fills you and the land with energy, August is the late middle age of the Summer, May is a youthful period, a precious time that when it is missed is a pity.

Downburst, on 09 May 2012 - 16:19 , said:

In August the leaves turn a darker green. some dropping off already, damaged ones etc and the evenings get darker, there is a different light for certain, both directly from the Sun and in it's reflection off plants. Summer flowers begin to fade away and many go to seed, not all but a lot. Yes it is a great month but it doesn't have the light or promise that May and June have. A good May is a magical time for nature and observing it. Fills you and the land with energy, August is the late middle age of the Summer, May is a youthful period, a precious time that when it is missed is a pity.

august is better because its warmer and you can sit outside, plus crops harvest then. may is overrated its always cold in the evening and night

[conor123]

Snow? norfolk n chance, on 11 May 2012 - 20:16 , said:

Any other springs where warmest max has been in March? sofar my highest max is 20.9C on 28th Mar, although not finished May yet, just wondered if its ever happened

Yeah were still yet to beat the 19.6c reached here March 28th, highest in April was 13.5c on the 1st and so far this month yesterdays high of 17.8c with no sign of any 20c+ days whatsoever still.

[Snow? norfolk n chance]

My highest april day was 30th at 17.1C, highest this month, 10th at 20.2C max

[Eugene]

Quote

Nothing exceptional till last week of June, early July. Temperatuers max mean at 22*C for England. with 18-19*C max mean for scotland. This is generally maintained across most of the country for the 2nd week of July, with a max mean of 20-21*C. 3rd week of July, widespread temperatures with a max of 20*C in the south east max mean. Widespread temperatures of 20*C in the UK, minimum of 18*C in parts of the Highlands. 21*C in parts in the south as we enter last week of July.

First week of August, 20*C in the south east. With 15-18*C in the north and Scotland. For the 4 weeks to early September, temperatures in the south max mean at 20*C in the south east, 18-19*C widespread across the UK, except Scotland some parts showing 17*C


Does look like, late June- till Early September could be scorcher. I am trying to find if these max means are like some sort of average temperature and you could add another 5-10*C for a max temperature on to them.

Is this a joke, we have enough problems forecasting a week away let alone forecasting a 2 month period thats over a month away to start, really you should take much less notice of those CFS charts they are as temperamental as the british weather.

Edited by Eugene, 16 May 2012 - 10:42 .

[Eugene]

Quote

I'm yet to be convinced that the weather will settle down in the near future to any noteworthy degree. It looks to turn slightly warmer but TBH the 0z GFS doesn't look great for settled weather.......unless you live in Lerwick. I think some slight hopecasting/clutching at straws is happening. Even the ECM run isn't that settled with rain or showers never too far away. HL blocking looks the order of the day from where I'm sat.....based on current model projections of course.

All I'm seeing ATM is a pressure rise to the N/NE followed by a quick retrogression back to Greenland/N Atlantic- hardly a pattern change and rather more a pattern adjustment. With the MJO sluggish in the phases that a lot of people don't want to see in late spring, I think it might be a tad premature to herald any significant change in the pattern that has dominated the past few weeks. The biggest change will probably be the lack of arctic sourced air so it will feel decidedly warmer.


Also I see the phrase 'patience is needed' cropping up......I seem to remember that phrase coming up in winter and look what that brought us for 80% of its entirity.

On the other hand, what a fantastic post this is, completely realistic and not just over what may happen a few months ahead.

The warmer continental air will most likely give colder daytime maxs than the current polar air over the country due to rain and no sunshine on sunday and monday.

[Snow? norfolk n chance]

Still my spring max in march, with lousy models for the rest of May, this could be a spring 01 mar-31 may when warmest temp is in march

[Eugene]

Quote

indeed anyone talking of 25-27c back then for later this week would have been laughed at.

Yes indeed just like anybody suggesting the wettest April in 100 years would of been laughed at in March after that early summer like weather, just shows you anything is possible and nobody has a clue.

[BrightInBrighton]

Eugene, on 21 May 2012 - 15:39 , said:

Yes indeed just like anybody suggesting the wettest April in 100 years would of been laughed at in March after that early summer like weather, just shows you anything is possible and nobody has a clue.

Not true, I went for a wet April back in late feb and in march and knew that after a great March/Feb it would cool down, it often does that after 2ish months. so some people did indeed have a clue.

[sebastiaan1973]

For the first time this year the 30c degree was reached in the Netherlands. Hupsel, in the east of the country was the highest station with 30.8c.