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#1 Coast

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 08:34

Well, I've got to say I wasn't expecting to see a thread open for today!

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Storm Forecast
Valid: Sat 27 Aug 2011 06:00 to Sun 28 Aug 2011 06:00 UTC
Issued: Sat 27 Aug 2011 03:57
Forecaster: VAN DER VELDE / KOROSEC

A level 2 was issued for N Italy, Austria, Slovenia, across E Czech Republic and W Slovakia into central Poland mainly for large hail and severe wind gusts, and perhaps a tornado. Excessive convective rain chance exists along the south flank of the Alps.

A level 1 was issued for areas surrounding the level 2 mainly for some large hail and severe wind gusts and excessive convective rain.

A level 1 was issued for southern Scandinavia mainly for excessive convective rain, large hail, and some chance of tornadoes.

SYNOPSIS

A deep trough over western Europe now acting as a negative tilted trough with its axis crossing the central Europe during the day. At surface, a sharp cold front extends from southern Scandinavia towards the southern Alpine region. The front gets pushed eastwards and serves as a focus for robust convective activity over the highlighted areas. Cool maritime airmass overspreads western Europe and results in scattered convection.

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Forecaster: Dan
Last Updated: 23:13 Friday, 26th August 2011
Valid: 00:00 Saturday, 27th August 2011 - 23:59 Saturday, 27th August 2011

Areas Affected:
MDT: C + SW Scotland, Borders, NE England
SLGT: C + S Scotland, Northern Ireland, N England, N + E Midlands, East Anglia

Synopsis:
An upper trough becomes an upper low as it slowly migrates northeastwards towards Norway, leaving the United Kingdom in a showery rPm NWerly airmass. Local convergence will provide the greatest focus for significant convection.

Discussion:
Cold upper levels will steepen lapse rates as diurnal heating occurs, leading to several hundred J/kg CAPE. This, combined with local convergence zones and topographical uplift will result in numerous showers across many parts of the country, and thunderstorms likely across southern Scotland, northern and eastern England given ELT's as low as -50C in places. Embedded troughs and areas of PVA are likely to enhance convection and thus thunderstorm coverage across the threat areas.

There is a lack of any noteworthy DLS or LLS, and thus the severe weather threat will be limited, although given the setup a CZ-type funnel is possible. Smail hail is likely in some showers given cold air aloft, possibly >1cm over East Anglia.

It must be noted that the greatest instability will slowly migrate northwards and eastwards during the day as the upper low continues it's journey northeastwards, and thus those areas in the southern portions of the SLGT area have their best potential until mid-afternoon.
Ruddy Belgium again!!!!

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Met O Chart has it over the East of the country, but not as far South as ESTOFEX:

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CAPE is patchy and gone by 15.00 Hrs:
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A little patch of something around Hull?

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Higher level not too bad either:

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So an Eastern England possibility, maybe around the Humber later on in the morning/early afternoon?

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#2 vortex_liam

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 08:41

I'm probably out then today..
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:29

Erm...Just had a very sharp shower...And a very high tower moving through..Black sky! And a faint rumble..

2012...


Diffrent year for weather?

, Lets hope for some proper summer storms atlantic lows and some GLORIOUS SUNSHINE!!


2012..London Olymics!!


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:49

Yeah, probably no chance for me either. I think East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire have had enough storms this year, send some over here. :Posted Image

Edited by aaron, 27 August 2011 - 09:49 .

2012
Max temperature +22.1°C
Minimum temperature -7.9°C

Thunder: 1
Lightning: 1
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:50

Convective / Storm forecast - Issued 27/08/2011 10:30

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Valid: 27/08/2011 10:30 - 28/08/2011 06:00

Headline: ... THERE IS A RISK OF THUNDERSTORMS FORECAST...

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Deep negatively-tilted upper trough extends SE across the UK down towards Nern Italy during the forecast period. At the surface, at 18z Sat a ridge of high pressure over the east N Atlantic extends S from Iceland down to the W of Iberia, deep area of low pressure centred just NE of Scotland pulling a cool maritime W to NWerly flow across the UK - unstable in the N and E

… SCOTLAND, N and E ENGLAND, N EIRE …

Cool W to NW flow characterised by steep low to mid-level lapse rates towards Nern and Ern UK towards upper trough will allow numerous showers to develop widely across UK. Greatest CAPE is likely to be across Scotland, N and E England beneath the coldest air of the upper trough over N and E UK, scattered thunderstoms are likely to develop here ... vertical shear will be rather weak where greatest instability is likely and temperatures/dew points fairly low - so no severe weather is anticipated ... though showers/storms maybe accompanied by hail, gusty winds and torrential rain leading to localised flooding. Any storms should fade after dark.
Tornadoes seen to date:


Fredericksburg (TX) 01/05/07, Stafford (KS) 05/05/07, Medicine Lodge (KS) 06/05/08, Hooker (OK) 05/05/08, Stuttgart (AR) 10/05/08, Big Spring (TX) 14/05/08, Sielbert (CO) 21/05/08, Hoxie (KS) 22/05/08, Collyer (KS) 22/05/08, Dighton (KS) 23/05/08, Ness City (KS) 23/05/08, Ellis (KS) 23/05/08, Quinter (KS) 23/05/08, Pratt (KS) 26/05/08, Kearney (NE) 29/05/08, Aurora (NE) 29/05/08.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:52

Some quite rapid convection going on, here....
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:54

View PostPete Tattum, on 27 August 2011 - 09:52 , said:

Some quite rapid convection going on, here....

Agreed..But why here? I'm not in the risk zone today..

2012...


Diffrent year for weather?

, Lets hope for some proper summer storms atlantic lows and some GLORIOUS SUNSHINE!!


2012..London Olymics!!


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:59

View PostPete Tattum, on 27 August 2011 - 09:52 , said:

Some quite rapid convection going on, here....

Aye, clouds are beginning to tower now after a fairly clear start to the morning. Wouldn't rule out some heavy showers with the odd crack of thunder for London later, though think most action will be to north across E England and S Scotland.
Tornadoes seen to date:


Fredericksburg (TX) 01/05/07, Stafford (KS) 05/05/07, Medicine Lodge (KS) 06/05/08, Hooker (OK) 05/05/08, Stuttgart (AR) 10/05/08, Big Spring (TX) 14/05/08, Sielbert (CO) 21/05/08, Hoxie (KS) 22/05/08, Collyer (KS) 22/05/08, Dighton (KS) 23/05/08, Ness City (KS) 23/05/08, Ellis (KS) 23/05/08, Quinter (KS) 23/05/08, Pratt (KS) 26/05/08, Kearney (NE) 29/05/08, Aurora (NE) 29/05/08.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:00

View PostNick F, on 27 August 2011 - 09:59 , said:


Aye, clouds are beginning to tower now after a fairly clear start to the morning. Wouldn't rule out some heavy showers with the odd crack of thunder for London later, though think most action will be to north across E England and S Scotland.

Ddi you hear that thunder about an hour ago?? Very faint for me..

2012...


Diffrent year for weather?

, Lets hope for some proper summer storms atlantic lows and some GLORIOUS SUNSHINE!!


2012..London Olymics!!


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:07

View PostSurrey, on 27 August 2011 - 10:00 , said:


Ddi you hear that thunder about an hour ago?? Very faint for me..

No, a few sharp showers across far SW of London recently, though.
Tornadoes seen to date:


Fredericksburg (TX) 01/05/07, Stafford (KS) 05/05/07, Medicine Lodge (KS) 06/05/08, Hooker (OK) 05/05/08, Stuttgart (AR) 10/05/08, Big Spring (TX) 14/05/08, Sielbert (CO) 21/05/08, Hoxie (KS) 22/05/08, Collyer (KS) 22/05/08, Dighton (KS) 23/05/08, Ness City (KS) 23/05/08, Ellis (KS) 23/05/08, Quinter (KS) 23/05/08, Pratt (KS) 26/05/08, Kearney (NE) 29/05/08, Aurora (NE) 29/05/08.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:09

Eek, sounds like one of those days when we're the breeding ground here then, and E Mids, Lincs and E Yorks gets the main action.

A cluster of heavy showers working their way from NW England towards West and South Yorkshire. We NEED these to turn thundery over the next few hours, otherwise it's game over for another day!
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:22

Wow-za, massive, towering clouds to my east AND west. Convection starting here.. and agreed Steve, we need some action!

Edited by aaron, 27 August 2011 - 10:23 .

2012
Max temperature +22.1°C
Minimum temperature -7.9°C

Thunder: 1
Lightning: 1
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:23

really getting going now!!!!! WOWOWOWO

2012...


Diffrent year for weather?

, Lets hope for some proper summer storms atlantic lows and some GLORIOUS SUNSHINE!!


2012..London Olymics!!


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:32

I'm not expecting anything here today, had 4 flashes of lightning yesterday that's it for 2011 :p haha. A few moderate showers forecast here, but some big dark clouds are forming just to the North of here as they head off to the SE.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:38

that shower is heading to me its getting dark...
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:47

Currently a light shower here at present, nothing fun! Better not rain when i decide to go into Walsall later
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:52

I wonder if the Bradford storm shield can be broken today? I may be too far west though.
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:59

View PostSupacell, on 27 August 2011 - 10:52 , said:

I wonder if the Bradford storm shield can be broken today? I may be too far west though.
I'm wondering too. West & South Yorkshire = no go for storms this year!
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Max temperature +22.1°C
Minimum temperature -7.9°C

Thunder: 1
Lightning: 1
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:02

Blimey just got the car washed and the roof down and a huge black cell has moved in, out of a clear blue, from the North West with some menacing rain approaching. No thunder or lightning, but it is going to pelt down! I think my roof switch is connected to a rain magnet....Posted Image


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:05

aaron said:


I'm wondering too. West & South Yorkshire = no go for storms this year!

South Yorks hasn't done too badly as far as I know. But Bradford and Leeds have had a raw deal. There has been one storm over Bradford this year and I wasn't here to see it.

There are showers to the west but they aren't thundery yet.....
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