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[Turnedoutniceagain]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-14248915

A quick lesson on clouds by the BBC - very good !!

[PersianPaladin]

150 years of British weather forecasts

http://blogs.channel...-forecasts/7402

[Static Prevails]

I can't even comment on what the Daily Star published. Oh my, what rubbish!

[Jackone]

Some of the media reports here are nonsense really, and this really goes to show the SE of England media bias. July locally has been sunnier than average and drier than average, especially for the start of July. I really don't know where they are getting a washout summer, as this July is much drier than any year since 2006, and I think generally across the UK, July has been drier than many recent years. I think the salient point is here, Western areas have done better than eastern areas at times, especially at the start of July , but in the media mindset, this means bad weather everywhere. Now we are back in the Eastern (and especially SE areas) getting the best weather, and the media are claiming heatwave.

[damianslaw]

Yes the media has a very southeast-london bias, so whenever it looks like 30 degrees could be reached in the centre of London, you get loads of reports saying 'britain about to bask in medittearan conditions' or something along those lines. The same old reports appear in the newspapers with photos of packed beaches and always it seems Brighton and Bournemouth. They usually show some young women in bikinis and a toddler with an ice cream in their hand. It is simple filler, and the media churn out the same old stuff year in year out.
What they fail to do is paint the full picture or indeed say something like temps in scotland could even hit 70f - wow!!!, or they show a rain sodden west coast of scotland or wales and deserted beaches (hardly med conditions). You never see the same reports when scotland, wales, n ireland and west/north england is experiencing the better conditions and the SE is suffering.. mind this very rarely happens during our summers, but not so uncommon in the spring it has to be said.

Oh I notice BBC weather forecasts are showing the temp graph for London again - saying temps hitting 30 degrees on Wednesday, yes in central London but not many other places, those temp graphs really do annoy me. I do get tired of the media in the height of the summer, it does become very lazy and in terms of the weather it at its most SE biased. Roll on September in this respect..

[shedhead]

This is a beauty..... http://travel.aol.co...ould-be-hotter/

[AderynCoch]

damianslaw, on 01 August 2011 - 21:52 , said:

Yes the media has a very southeast-london bias, so whenever it looks like 30 degrees could be reached in the centre of London, you get loads of reports saying 'britain about to bask in medittearan conditions' or something along those lines. The same old reports appear in the newspapers with photos of packed beaches and always it seems Brighton and Bournemouth. They usually show some young women in bikinis and a toddler with an ice cream in their hand. It is simple filler, and the media churn out the same old stuff year in year out.
What they fail to do is paint the full picture or indeed say something like temps in scotland could even hit 70f - wow!!!, or they show a rain sodden west coast of scotland or wales and deserted beaches (hardly med conditions). You never see the same reports when scotland, wales, n ireland and west/north england is experiencing the better conditions and the SE is suffering.. mind this very rarely happens during our summers, but not so uncommon in the spring it has to be said.

Oh I notice BBC weather forecasts are showing the temp graph for London again - saying temps hitting 30 degrees on Wednesday, yes in central London but not many other places, those temp graphs really do annoy me. I do get tired of the media in the height of the summer, it does become very lazy and in terms of the weather it at its most SE biased. Roll on September in this respect..

What really annoys me in circumstances such as these is when you come across lines such as "make the most of it, it won't last" or "things will cool down to near normal in the next few days" when your area never got that warm and sunny in the first place.

It's almost like you should be grateful that you managed to reach 21C under overcast skies and heavy rain.

[Gavin D]

Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual” lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive” hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary” of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. ”There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.c...e-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent” thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. ”But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.”

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar...-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co...ey-for-now.html

[damianslaw]

Gavin D, on 02 August 2011 - 15:08 , said:

Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual” lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive” hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary” of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. ”There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.c...e-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent” thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. ”But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.”

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar...-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co...ey-for-now.html

I long stopped reading the newspaper sensationalist reports on impending freezes and heatwaves - what a load of ****. The Express tends to be the worse culprit, where on earth have they got there 2 week heatwave forecast from... whats the betting when the rains come later this week/weekend, all of a sudden we get reports of rain sodden end to heatwave - the heatwave that never was, and there is no heatwave here whatsoever. I pity the man who buys into such reports.

[Carl43Wrexham]

Gavin D, on 02 August 2011 - 15:08 , said:

Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual” lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive” hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary” of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. ”There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.c...e-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent” thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. ”But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.”

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar...-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co...ey-for-now.html

Absolute codswallop! We had a maximum temperature of 22c today....yup just like India

Also...why in the name of Christ do the media persist with the infuriating habit of screeching headlines such as "UK hotter than Istanbul"??? WHY? Why is it when the South East of England gets hot weather it becomes "BRITAIN hotter than Spain...Turkey...Med...blah blah"

I can't say i'm overly impressed either with the Met Office comment "People should make the most of the weather while they can" Aye...should really have made the most of yesterday's rain....and todays often cloudy skies and 22c

WE DON'T ALL LIVE IN THE SOUTH EAST!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPRENDE??? Does my bloody head in! :wallbash::wallbash:

Edited by Carl43Wrexham, 02 August 2011 - 21:20 .

[AderynCoch]

Carl43Wrexham, on 02 August 2011 - 21:10 , said:

I can't say i'm overly impressed either with the Met Office comment "People should make the most of the weather while they can" Aye...should really have made the most of yesterday's rain....and todays often cloudy skies and 22c

Egsbloodyzactly! It's so infuriating, and one more reason to hate these hideous, disproportionate NW/SE splits.

[crepuscular ray]

Nice of the BBC to give N/W a name-check (check out the last 20 seconds of the film).

http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-14525366

[johnholmes]

nothing new there is there Paul as you know I've preached how much effect the weather has on sales of all manner of merchandise since being on here and did much the same within the Met Office BEFORE they decided to try and get in on the act.
Its an enormous field and IF a web site can get the confidence of a couple of the big retailers for forecasting 1-10 days ahead-you've made it!

[Paul]

Did a blog on this earlier

http://forum.netweat...-weather-today/

[johnholmes]

yep read it and watched Ian

[crepuscular ray]

Paul, on 15 August 2011 - 18:09 , said:

Did a blog on this earlier

http://forum.netweat...-weather-today/

Sorry, didn't spot the blog!

[Paul]

No problem - thanks for pointing the video out

[damianslaw]

Note weather outlook headline going for a splanish plume event with possible temps in the low 30's. High 20's absolute best we can expect this weekend and only reserved for London and the SE. Watch them quickly change the headline come Thursday - talk about getting people's hopes up. All summer they seem to chase elusive heatwaves, and in the winter elusive blizzards - always with words along the lines of ...' as we head towards... chance of things turning notably ... ' - I long ago stopped taking weather outlook seriously, net weather is much more level headed and a realist.

[Coast]

Well, that's it then according to this article!!!

Quote

The best of the summer is over with unsettled weather forecast for the rest of the month and the Bank Holiday weekend, according to forecasters.

The Met Office has warned that most places in the country will experience a 'mixture of scattered showers or longer spells of rain in a predominantly westerly flow', dampening any hopes of a late flurry of sunshine or the 30C temperatures which hit the country on August 3 and June 27.

Rain is expected to be heavy at times, especially towards the north and west where there will be a risk of thunderstorms. Temperatures will cool to around 17C in the north of England and Scotland. The south and east are likely to see drier weather with temperatures of 20C and conditions are expected to 'be around normal for the time of year', according to a report in the Mail.

Temperatures will be lower in places where there is prolonged rainfall although forecasters expect them to rise gradually towards the weekend with the south west and Midlands enjoying most of the sunshine with temperatures of 22C.

MetCheck forecasts that autumn storms are likely towards the end of August, bringing with them cooler, unsettled weather. There is likely be some respite in early September when the weather becomes more settled although temperatures are unlikely to be hot.

This summer has only seen two days which forecasters classify as hot - when temperatures reach 30C - compared to the summer of 2006 which had 20 hot days.

Jonathan Powell, senior forecaster with Positive Weather Solutions, told the Telegraph: 'With the remainder of August looking somewhat gloomy, this summer really has been a stinker. Some parts fared better than others with the east and south-east head and shoulders above the rest. All eyes will be on the last big getaway of summer for the late August Bank Holiday but even that period looks poor at present.'

http://travel.aol.co...ay-forecasters/

[Gavin D]

Coast, on 17 August 2011 - 13:55 , said:

Well, that's it then according to this article!!!


http://travel.aol.co...ay-forecasters/

And back in April or May Mr Powell said we'd get past 100 °F in the south and now he's saying this summer really has been a stinker. This guy is just an Attention Seeker, alway's has his name in the papers never get's the forecast right.

Next the Daily Express will be running a front page story, "Coldest Winter Ever On It's Way" according to Jonathan Powell of Positive Weather Solutions. It's only a matter of time till this headline appears now.