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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

The met office have immediately responded to the Daily Express

 

Winter Forecasting – Responding to the headlines

 

Once again it is the season for speculation and big headlines regarding what the weather will do over the winter period. The front page of the Daily Express today claims: ‘Worst winter for decades: Record-breaking snow predicted for November’. We saw similar headlines last year and instead winter 12/13 ended up being only the 43rd coldest on record with an average temperature of 3.3C and flooding until the turn of the year. What the Daily Express has failed to explain to it’s readers is that there is absolutely no certainty about what weather the UK will see over the winter period. The science simply does not exist to make detailed, long-term forecasts for temperature and snowfall even for the end of November, let alone for the winter period, which does not officially start until 1 December.

 

While we have seen a return to more normal, cooler temperatures for this time of year, this is no indication of what we can expect over the next four months with regards to temperatures and when we might see snow. It is far too early to tell.

Ultimately, we’re heading into winter and it is perfectly possible that we will see the whole range of weather that we get in winter at some point over the coming months, including snow and freezing temperatures, but also heavy rain, windy weather and mild conditions too. Our five day forecasts and warnings will provide you with the best possible guidance on any periods of cold weather, frost or the likelihood of snow, giving detailed local information across the UK to help you make the most of the weather over the coming months.

 

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/winter-forecasting-responding-to-the-headlines/

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Munich snowfall

 

http://www.wetteronline.de/wetter-videos?cat=24&day=11&month=10&sort=date&token=ve&year=2013

 

The text below the video translated from German

 

First snow in the Erzgebirge - In Bavaria it has the end of the week to descend to lower altitudes snowed. Even in Munich, it was the first flakes. In Saxony, motorists in the high altitudes of the Ore had to stop for the first time this fall to early winter road conditions. Image Sources: Walter Stieglmair, Bernd March

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Austria and Switzerland have also had Unexpected heavy snowfall where up-to 80cm fell

 

Unexpected snowfall brings early winter chaos to Bavaria

 

Winter has come early in Bavaria. Unexpected heavy snowfall has brought traffic to a halt in southern Germany, as well as Austria and Switzerland, and left thousands of people without power. It was temporary chaos in southern Germany on Friday after as much as 40 centimeters (15.7 inches) of snow fell in some areas. The early winter weather has toppled trees and downed power lines in Bavaria, leaving about 12,000 people without electricity, and authorities told school children and drivers to stay home.

 

In the Austrian province of Tyrol alone, nearly 30,000 people were lacking power. Many key traffic routes in Germany, Austria and Switzerland have also been affected. Germany's rail operator, Deutsche Bahn, was forced to suspend operations around Munich, while snowfall on the Autobahn left many drivers stuck. Germany's DWD weather service recorded 35 centimeters of snowfall, the most at the beginning of the winter half-year since measurements began in 1800. Some parts of Switzerland experienced as much as 80 centimeters of snowfall.

 

http://www.dw.de/unexpected-snowfall-brings-early-winter-chaos-to-bavaria/a-17152822

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  • Location: Sible Hedingham. Essex
  • Location: Sible Hedingham. Essex

Keep dreaming Lads/Girls.

There is No sign of a winter blast ..The weaather from mid week will be coming from our Mr Atlantic.

Damp and  mild winds..

EXPRESS = Scaremongering I am affraid.

Not worth the Ink...or the money.

 

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Keep dreaming Lads/Girls.

There is No sign of a winter blast ..The weaather from mid week will be coming from our Mr Atlantic.

Damp and  mild winds..

EXPRESS = Scaremongering I am affraid.

Not worth the Ink...or the money.

 

Indeed they should be banned from making these stupid stories they've failed 2 years running for winter another fail this winter and they can keep the match ball

 

James Madden and Jonathan Powell are the worst for providing these quotes

 

Scaremongering like this is just not needed

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  • Location: Whitecross - EH49
  • Location: Whitecross - EH49

Aren't the Express newspaper group really top notch journo's

 

Worst winter for decades: Record-breaking snow predicted for November BRITAIN is braced for the "worst winter in decades" with the first major snowfall expected in weeks.

Published: Sat, October 12, 2013

and 12 months ago.......

Coldest winter in 100 years on way BRITAIN will grind to a halt within weeks as the most savage freeze for a century begins.

Published: Tue, November 27, 2012

They're all muppets

 

and they go way back....

Britons facing colder winter There will be a return to colder weather this winter, forecasters have predicted.
 
Published: Fri, September 28, 2007
After soggy summer it will be wipe-out winter AN Arctic winter with heavy snow and plummeting temperatures lies in store for us all after one of the most miserable summers on record.
Published: Fri, September 19, 2008
 
 
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  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall

Aren't the Express newspaper group really top notch journo's

 

Worst winter for decades: Record-breaking snow predicted for November BRITAIN is braced for the "worst winter in decades" with the first major snowfall expected in weeks.
Published: Sat, October 12, 2013

and 12 months ago.......

Coldest winter in 100 years on way BRITAIN will grind to a halt within weeks as the most savage freeze for a century begins.
Published: Tue, November 27, 2012

They're all muppets

What's next ice age at winter 2014!

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Australia On Alert For Extreme Summer

 

Australians are being warned to brace themselves for an increase in heatwaves, cyclones, severe thunderstorms and ferocious bushfires as the country heads towards summer. Australia has recently sweltered through record breaking weather and meteorologists say they are expecting more records to be broken after the country's hottest 12 months on record, including the hottest ever September, hottest ever day, and second warmest winter. Tom Saunders, senior meteorologist at the Sky News Australia Weather Channel, says: "Through this summer we are expecting another hot one for Australia, above average temperatures throughout the country with at least one or two heatwaves through the southern states. "We are expecting 11 to 14 tropical cyclones off our northern coastline, and we are expecting an above average number of severe thunderstorms for eastern and southern parts of Australia."

 

Warmer than average sea surface temperatures around Australia's coast are partly to blame, adding heat and moisture to the atmosphere. "Our seas have been warming up over the past few decades and even in the past 12 months the sea surface temps off the west coast and south coast of Australia have been the highest on record," says Mr Saunders. Last January, Australia recorded its hottest ever day - hitting a national average of 40.3 degrees Celsius, the hottest place being Oodnadatta in South Australia's far north which reached a blistering 47C. While hot, dry, breezy days might be welcomed by tourists and those living near Australia's beaches, for many living inland such conditions raise the frightening prospect of fierce bushfires.

 

The 2013 bushfire season began early in Australia and firefighters, many of them volunteers in rural areas, are preparing for a dangerous few months ahead. "It's a wake up call to everybody living in bushfire prone areas," says commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons from the New South Wales Rural Fire Service. "We've got a vegetation growth the likes of which we haven't seen for many decades and with the sign ahead for a continuing hot dry period as we lead into summer, it shapes up for a signal to a long hot difficult bushfire season." Many in Australia know the pain such fires can cause. In what became known as 'Black Saturday' in February 2009 as many as 400 blazes killed 173 people, and injured 414.

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1153806/australia-on-alert-for-extreme-summer

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  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
  • Location: St Austell,Cornwall
Two motorists killed in storms as torrential rains sweep across Britain with the nation set for a wet weekend as autumn sun ends
 
*Forecasters predict rain for parts of the country over weekend while temperatures are expected to be below average
 
*The UK will see a north-south split with the worst of the weather in south east eventually moving up the coast
 
*Weather may pick up at the beginning of next week although it will deteriorate once again by end of the week
 
 
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  • Location: Poole, Dorset 42m ASL
  • Location: Poole, Dorset 42m ASL

 

Two motorists killed in storms as torrential rains sweep across Britain with the nation set for a wet weekend as autumn sun ends
 
*Forecasters predict rain for parts of the country over weekend while temperatures are expected to be below average
 
*The UK will see a north-south split with the worst of the weather in south east eventually moving up the coast
 
*Weather may pick up at the beginning of next week although it will deteriorate once again by end of the week
 
 

Oh so typical of the Mail.newspaper

The gent who died in Bournemouth, has not been attributed to the weather, unless of course the Mail knows something we don't.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

UK weather: Now it’s going to rain heavily till Christmas

 

RAIN and gales are set to continue this week after chaos at the weekend. And experts warned Britain could face up to two months of wet weather with above-average rainfall likely until the end of the year. The Met Office said that high pressure to the north of the UK over the next two months could bring more rainfall. Over the weekend, huge swathes of the country were lashed by ferocious downpours. And Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Vantage Weather Services, said driving rain and gusts of up to 50mph are likely to last all week. This is due to a low pressure system barrelling in from the Atlantic, with the South and the East in for the most unsettled conditions,†he warned. Heavy downpours caused chaos yesterday. A coach carrying 47 people was in a collision with a lorry on the A1 near Cambridge in bad weather.

 

Thirteen were taken to hospital, two with serious injuries, and 29 were treated at the scene. The Highways Agency said an investigation was under way, but police refused to confirm whether the incident was weather-related. The Environment Agency has issued six flood alerts for the East and South-east with rain expected to raise river levels. Last week, residents of Walcott, Norfolk, fled their homes after waves rose over sea walls. Yesterday Essex saw eight millimetres of rain in an hour as the country was hit with heavy downpours. The showers are set to continue throughout the week with the east coast of England and Scotland bearing the brunt. Worse still, an easterly breeze is expected to make it feel colder than average for the time of year, with temperatures topping a maximum of 14C.

 

The rain is expected to peak on Wednesday, with heavy downpours in the South-east. On a positive note, things look set to brighten up by the weekend in the South. Last week the Daily Express told how Britain is braced for the “worst winter in decades†with the first major snowfall expected in weeks. Wintry showers are expected to cause chaos with below-average temperatures possibly lingering until February. James Madden, of Exacta Weather, said it was likely to be the worst winter for more than 100 years.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/436541/UK-weather-Now-it-s-going-to-rain-heavily-till-Christmas

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  • Location: Dorset
  • Weather Preferences: warehamwx.co.uk
  • Location: Dorset

The Plymouthherald newspaper have run an article featuring Powell and Madden's sensationalist Winter tripe. I can't paste links but it should be easy to search. It really isn't on to be honest, there's probably thousands of old folk reading it that are now terrified of thought of it all, and it's likely to be incorrect. :( 

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Floods and smashes in UK storm hell

 

BRITAIN was battered by torrential downpours at the weekend as a month of rain fell in just two days. In some counties, including Essex, Suffolk and Norfolk, the rain was so heavy shopping centres had to close. In Cambridgeshire, 13 people were taken to hospital – two with serious injuries – after a coach carrying passengers home after a work party in London collided with a lorry on rain-lashed roads. The Redwing Coach was travelling to Newcastle-upon-Tyne from London with 45 passengers when the smash happened on the A1 near Buckden. The coach driver was hailed a hero by braking hard to avoid an even more serious accident. More rain is expected across the country until Wednesday when showers will die out in the south. But it will still bucket down in the north, possibly into next weekend.

 

 

Forecasters had warned October could see torrential rain after an unusually hot summer. British Weather Services senior meteorologist Jim Dale said: “Welcome to autumn. We have had a nice long summer and we’re paying the price for it now. “I don’t think we will have flooding on a huge scale just yet but people may experience localised flooding.†Callum McColl from the Met Office said: “Low pressure in the southern part of the north sea has brought with it bands of rain. This will spiral around eastern parts from Kent to the West Midlands, going up to the north of the country. “By the time we get to the weekend it still looks unsettled but definitely warmer.â€

 

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/344929/Floods-and-smashes-in-UK-storm-hell

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

The Plymouthherald newspaper have run an article featuring Powell and Madden's sensationalist Winter tripe. I can't paste links but it should be easy to search. It really isn't on to be honest, there's probably thousands of old folk reading it that are now terrified of thought of it all, and it's likely to be incorrect. Posted Image

 

This is all I can fine re Plymouth Herald

 

Met Office dismisses claims blizzards and brutal winds set for November

 

The UK’s premier weather service has dismissed reports the Westcountry could be set for its “worst winter in decadesâ€, saying it is too early to predict. It was reported on the weekend that brutal winds and blizzards could engulf the entire country in coming months with record-breaking snowfall predicted for November. However, the long-range predictions have been dismissed by the Met Office, who say it is impossible to say with any certainty what will happen this winter.

“The science simply does not exist to make detailed, long-term forecasts for temperature and snowfall even for the end of November, let alone for the winter period, which does not officially start until December 1,†said a spokesman. “While we have seen a return to more normal, cooler temperatures for this time of year, this is no indication of what we can expect over the next four months with regards to temperatures and when we might see snow. It is far too early to tell.

 

“Ultimately, we’re heading into winter and it is perfectly possible that we will see the whole range of weather that we get in winter at some point over the coming months, including snow and freezing temperatures, but also heavy rain, windy weather and mild conditions too.†The longest-range forecast put out by the meteorological agency, for 30 days, predicts that temperatures will be near average, with milder nights, and a less than usual chance of frost. The prediction comes after weeks of poor weather which brought the region’s record-breaking summer to a dismal end. Huge swathes of the Westcountry were put on flood alert at the beginning of the month as almost two-thirds of a month’s rain fell in less than a week. The Met Office predicts weather for the South West will reach highs of around 14C over the next few days with rain and fog patches dipping to a noticeably colder 5C at night.

 

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Blizzards-brutal-winds-forecast-November/story-19930143-detail/story.html

 

Ian Fergusson's response on twitter to the weekend's headlines

 

Tiresome "Powell's nonsense has now extended to the Daily Fail group... #checkyourfacts http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Blizzards-brutal-winds-forecast-November/story-19930143-detail/story.html â€¦"

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  • Location: Northallerton, North Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Extreme Events
  • Location: Northallerton, North Yorkshire

My wife's father runs a cafe in a small village that relies on tourism. I think it was a few weeks ago that Powell was saying in one of the papers how we were going to have a weekend battered by storms only for it to be glorious sunshine. My father in law found his profit was down something like 60 percent compared to last year over the same weekend and the only thing he could attribute it too was the fact that forecasts in the paper had put off people from visiting the local campsite.

I don't like to criticise people but the express has to think about a whole range of consequences before printing the nonsense it gets from these people. Although I will thank them for the free Sunday dinner I had out of the leftovers from that weekend.

I think it was the weather bomb nonsense

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/429792/Chaos-warning-as-70mph-weather-bombs-sweep-in

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

Tiresome "Powell's nonsense has now extended to the Daily Fail group... 

 

I don't want to start a flame war, so please, don't use this post as an excuse to start ripping into other peoples forecasts. The following link is purely for background information and is not necessarily my opinion or view OK?

 

http://www.monbiot.com/2012/06/15/storm-warning/

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

The Met Office answer back:

 

Met Office blasts weather reports of “worst winter in decadesâ€

 
The Met Office has played down reports that the country could be set for its “worst winter in decades†with extreme cold and heavy snowfall. Some predictions from weather agencies, not including the city weather centre, warn of record-breaking snowfall to arrive next month with below-average temperatures to last until February.  Vantage Weather Services told the Daily Express that the entire country would have a “horror freeze†which would bring brutal winds and fierce blizzards. But Met Office spokesman Nicky Maxey was critical of the reports, saying those producing them were “gazing into their crystal ballâ€.
 
“It is irresponsible of them to release such forecasts. The science simply doesn’t exist to accurately predict so far in advance. Weather is too unpredictable.†Bright weather is expected for the start of this week, before a band of wet and windy weather sweeps across the country by Friday. Conditions are likely to remain unsettled over the weekend, with prolonged showers and strong winds likely. Temperatures are expected to remain warm for October, reaching 17 degrees on Thursday.
 
Ms Maxey added: “The weather is going to become more autumnal later this week, but staying fairly mild. “Tuesday will be the best day of the week. It will be a case of dodging the showers over the weekend†Vantage Weather Services said the south of the country should brace itself for a “number of major snow events†next month, while large amounts of snowfall are predicted in the north.
Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Vantage Weather Services, blamed a “poorly positioned†jet stream for the prediction. “We are looking at a potentially paralysing winter, the worst for decades, which could at times grind the nation to a halt,†he said. “Persistent cold snaps with some very heavy snowfall are likely, and I would not be surprised if some records are not broken this year. “The main issue will be the extreme cold which is showing signs of really bedding in, thanks to freezing winds from the north.â€
 
The extreme weather prediction comes days after major energy supplier SSE announced an 8.2% increase in domestic bills amongst fears that pensioners will face another 'eat or heat’ dilemma during the winter. James Madden, forecaster for Exacta Weather, told the Express it was likely to be the worst winter for more than 100 years. He said: “A horror winter scenario is likely to bring another big freeze with copious snow for many parts. “There is also a high risk that we will experience a scenario similar to December 2010 or much worse at times, especially in January. “This is likely to produce major disruption to public transport and school closures on a prolific scale.†Swathes of the Westcountry were put on flood alert less than a fortnight ago when almost two-thirds of a month’s rain fell in less than a week.

 

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