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#841 songster

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 21:14

View PostGray-Wolf, on 05 April 2011 - 20:59 , said:

I'm with you on the 'new thread' Songster, I think we are now within the melt/fragmentation season. I'd like to hold onto folks suggestions for ice min though? I've had a lot of confirmations brought to me over these past 4 years by the 'guesses' some of my harsher critics have put forward and a lot of comfort from some of my valued fellows with their 'punts'!
How do you mean "hold on to"? The moderator posting the thread doesn't need to do anything - all I'm doing is editing my post as new guesses come in. If it gets buried too far back upthread, I'll make a fresh post if needed. I can keep doing that in this thread if people want, or when someone creates a new thread I can just copy and paste it over. I don't think it's a good idea to ask the moderator who creates the thread to post up the list, since that's also implicitly asking them to continually edit it to keep it up to date, and that's not a fair ask.

Or do you mean you want to be the one to keep track of things? Be my guest if so.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 21:25

View Postsongster, on 05 April 2011 - 21:14 , said:

How do you mean "hold on to"? The moderator posting the thread doesn't need to do anything - all I'm doing is editing my post as new guesses come in. If it gets buried too far back upthread, I'll make a fresh post if needed. I can keep doing that in this thread if people want, or when someone creates a new thread I can just copy and paste it over. I don't think it's a good idea to ask the moderator who creates the thread to post up the list, since that's also implicitly asking them to continually edit it to keep it up to date, and that's not a fair ask.

Or do you mean you want to be the one to keep track of things? Be my guest if so.

No Songster, It'd just be nice to have a record , if we swap threads, of our first thoughts on the season? There was a time when it'd been much of a muchness with not a lot of years falling below 6 million whereas today?

Instead of looking at 'synoptics' ,for both oceans warmth and air temp, as the control for melt we now have a basin bereft of the old 'backbone' of paleocrystic ice that made up the majority of ice left at summers end. We seem to have a basin full of ice younger than 4 years old and of a thickness that will melt out in an average season?

Some folk are still living in the world of the 'old Arctic' and their punt's betray (to me?) that fact. Come summers end it will be educational , for us all, to see why we put our guesses where we did?

I think we need wait until late June until we'll have any idea as to whose 'understanding' of the impacts of climate shift are most pertinent?

Edited by Gray-Wolf, 05 April 2011 - 21:26 .

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 22:00

If either of you, or indeed anyone else wants to go through and see what posts you want transferred to a new thread, I'll happily do it. Make a list, send me a PM and I'll do my best to not mess it up.

You're on your own if you want a regularly updated thing going on though....attention span of a gate post with the memory of a fish, it just wouldn't happen...
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#844 songster

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 22:16

Don't think there's any point copying posts over, I'll just make sure I post up the list and keep it up to date as and when we get a new thread.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 23:45

We did start a new thread for the freeze up so it does seem logical to keep the seasonal stuff in its place.

Melt season 2011 is here. http://forum.netweat...ice-discussion/

Will leave this one open for a short while so we can keep this for any further comments regarding the freeze up.

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