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#1 Mondy

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 23:02

Can't find a thread which covers this :unknw:

Local hills (not mountains) just about snow-free now. :) It's taken a while.

Don't think I've ever seen snow last so long on The Ochils.

How's other areas doing?

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 07:16

View PostMondy, on 08 May 2010 - 23:02 , said:

Can't find a thread which covers this :lol:

Local hills (not mountains) just about snow-free now. :( It's taken a while.

Don't think I've ever seen snow last so long on The Ochils.

How's other areas doing?

There's still snow on Arran but that's cheating as Goat Fell goes up to almost 3,000ft :lol: Having said that I have never seen snow on it in May before.

As you say there has been snow around on even the lower hills for a long long time this year. The last of the snow went from my local hills (Renfrewshire Heights) only a couple of weeks ago which is pretty impressive as they're only 522m at their highest point, Hill of Stake.
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Posted 10 May 2010 - 08:49

All the snow piles gone here in late March. Not like it used to be in the good old days when they would last into August.
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#4 Alternative Ulster

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:28

Follow this thread:

http://forum.netweat...s/page__st__170

#5 John_T

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 14:33

All the discussion on long lasting snow patches seems to be over at WinterHighland this year. Here's the link.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 15:09

Still many patches of snow left on the Pennines around here, but they're obscured today by a fall of fresh snow overnight.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 17:54

View PostMondy, on 08 May 2010 - 23:02 , said:

Can't find a thread which covers this :lol:

Local hills (not mountains) just about snow-free now. :lol: It's taken a while.

Don't think I've ever seen snow last so long on The Ochils.

How's other areas doing?

I counted 10 patches on them today Mondy from the train to Lenzie. One is still quite big.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 14:44

Well were still skiing at Cairngorm just now so i dont think were anywhere near the time to be counting remaining snow paltches in the Grampians. Will probably be skiing until June up here this year. All we need is a well below average summer and you never know but could be skiing throughout the summer here. especially if Kelta erupts and blocks some sunlight over the UK.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 19:10

View Postyeahbabyyeah, on 11 May 2010 - 14:44 , said:

Well were still skiing at Cairngorm just now so i dont think were anywhere near the time to be counting remaining snow paltches in the Grampians. Will probably be skiing until June up here this year. All we need is a well below average summer and you never know but could be skiing throughout the summer here. especially if Kelta erupts and blocks some sunlight over the UK.

I suspect that when the snow on the higher Scottish hills eventually melts into small enough bits to be called wreaths or patches then Firefly will open a dedicated patch thread as he has in the last few years. In the meantime the snow covered areas in the Highlands and Grampians, especially the Cairngorms, are far too big above 3000 feet to be called patches, even without this weeks new cover on top.
Meanwhile on Winter Highland there is an interesting thread running on snow patches South of the Highlands. I don't know if there is enough interest to begin a similar thread here??

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 21:19

View PostMondy, on 08 May 2010 - 23:02 , said:

Can't find a thread which covers this :D

Local hills (not mountains) just about snow-free now. :D It's taken a while.

Don't think I've ever seen snow last so long on The Ochils.

How's other areas doing?

Ochils currently getting a wee top up.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 07:29

Norrance is quite right! There's waaaaaaaay too much snow in the Highlands just now to start a meaningful thread on the subject. That's why I've started one (as I did last year) on Winterhighland for southern Scotland/northern England. If there's sufficient interest on here to do the same then I'd be delighted to follow it and add to it. Failing that, keep up-to-date with the snow reports on WH.

The situation at present is that snow is still persisting in large quantities on the Lake District hills, northern Pennines and Southern Uplands of Scotland. In addition, Wales is still holding onto snow at Snowdon and Carnedd Llewelyn: possibly other places. An excellent site for this is here: http://www.llansadwr...k/ice/snow.html

The wreaths, this year almost exclusively facing W/SW/S, are a result of large northerly/north-easterly storms over the winter. The best example of this is the huge wreath still clearly visible from the M6 that is sitting below the summit of Cross Fell. This wreath, still convex, is hundreds of metres long. It will without doubt last into June. Who knows, if the weather remains cool then we could even be looking at July. Highly unusual.

As of the weekend, the Ochils in Scotland were still holding onto a tiny bit of snow in Silver Glen, here. An incredibly low altitude of 220m!

The Peak District lost its last snow on the 5th May, so far as we can tell.

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#12 Backtrack

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 18:25

There are large snow patches still on Snowdon in Wales.
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#13 yeahbabyyeah

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 20:36

View PostCheggers, on 11 May 2010 - 21:19 , said:

Ochils currently getting a wee top up.

220m, thats pretty insane. That must have been either very deep or absolutely no sunlight and shelter from rain.
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#14 Paul T

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 23:13

View PostOsbourne One-Nil, on 10 May 2010 - 15:09 , said:

Still many patches of snow left on the Pennines around here, but they're obscured today by a fall of fresh snow overnight.

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Fantastic photos, May10th and photos like that taken in England at what must be 450-500m asl? Nice one

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 06:50

View Postyeahbabyyeah, on 13 May 2010 - 20:36 , said:

220m, thats pretty insane. That must have been either very deep or absolutely no sunlight and shelter from rain.

There hasn't really been that much rain in the last couple of months, although I can only talk for here not the Ochils.

Still pretty amazing though <_<
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 19:19

April had decent maximums, but many nights were close to freezing and ground frost most nights in gulleys and at altitude.
May has just been plain cold so far.

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 10:32

Yes, the snow at 220m is remarkable. It may now be gone, but I've got someone going up to look at it today, so will post back whether it has survived thus far. Funnily enough, travellers in the 19th century did allude to this location (without actually naming it) as holding snow into summer. It was described as a hollow "300 feet deep...near Alva". Unquestionably the Silver Glen location. Adam Watson and I are writing a book about historical evidence of more snow in Britain between the 17th century and early 20th century, and this forms a small part of our research.

#18 Osbourne One-Nil

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 17:12

View PostPaul T, on 13 May 2010 - 23:13 , said:

Fantastic photos, May10th and photos like that taken in England at what must be 450-500m asl? Nice one

Paul

Probably more like 700m and above, but impressive nonetheless.

Still some snow under Cross Fell, even halfway down. Seeing as it's south facing, goodness knows how deep it must have originally been to survive this long.



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And this was taken this afternoon - Cross Fell May 15th 2010.JPG

It'll be interesting to see how long it survives with next week predicted to become warmer.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 09:46

* Pictures now posted.

Edited by Derbyshire_snow, 16 May 2010 - 11:39 .

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#20 Derbyshire_snow

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 11:38

Here are a selection photos that i took of Mt Snowdon & the surrounding mountains on Wednesday May the 12th :good:

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You fill up my senses like a gallon of magnet like a packet of woodbines like a good pinch of snuff like a night out in sheffield like a greasy chip butty like sheffield united come fill me again na na na na oooooooooooooo