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Posted 25 May 2010 - 21:20

View PostNick F, on 25 May 2010 - 13:40 , said:

Good news for those virtual hurricane watchers from the Met Office, an active Hurricane season:

http://www.metoffice...pr20100525.html

Thanks Nick. Not often we see you in this area of the site :drunk:
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94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 15:27

The NOAA forecase is out showing the expected range of numbers, the upper range is pretty immense!!

14-23 Named Storms
8-14 Hurricanes
3-7 Major Hurricanes
An ACE range of 155%-270% of the median.

Here is the full forecast:

http://www.cpc.noaa....hurricane.shtml


I'll issue my own forecast on here on the 31st of May, needless to say I'm expecting a busy one!

Edited by kold weather, 27 May 2010 - 15:31 .

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 18:06

View Postkold weather, on 27 May 2010 - 15:27 , said:

The NOAA forecase is out showing the expected range of numbers, the upper range is pretty immense!!

14-23 Named Storms
8-14 Hurricanes
3-7 Major Hurricanes
An ACE range of 155%-270% of the median.

Here is the full forecast:

http://www.cpc.noaa....hurricane.shtml


I'll issue my own forecast on here on the 31st of May, needless to say I'm expecting a busy one!

I look forward to reading it mate
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The below are taken from Ness weather station
94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
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78.8 mph proof

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 20:25

Needless to say Cookie conditons alot are quite unreal according to the models, lower then normal pressure over the Atlantic, high SSTs and a La Nina are fuels for a big hurricane season, just need to hope the La Nina becomes too powerful and starts to have almost the opposite effect of what weaker La Nina's cause.

I don't think that will occur, and I think 2010 may not be far from the historic seasons of the past...
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 21:33

its going to be a interesting watch, at least with the NOAA forecast coming out it will get into the public domain via all the different news agencies.

I have read a lot of debate over the wide range of the number of named storms they are saying from 14 - 23 as being to much of a big gap at one end of the scale being a hyper active season and other end being Average , what's your take on their being a 9 number gap?
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The below are taken from Ness weather station
94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
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78.8 mph proof

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 08:29

Very busy season given by NOAA!!!

I'm still wondering if we get a couple of Cape Verde storms being steered up the West coast of Africa by the 'Azores Low' that keeps appearing when the Atlantic gets blocked??

If this 'odd' situation of a Neg AO and a propensity toward Atlantic blocking continues then I'd not be surprised ig Aug saw a couple of 'stray' T.S./'canes on our side of the pond!!!
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 21:10

I'm personally expecting a pretty big season this year with many factors that have been in play in some of the bigger seasons of the past 50 years or so.

Firstly we have to look at the SSTs. They are currently still running well above average from about 5N upto 25N which means it covers pretty much all of the deep tropics. The Gulf has warmed up and the Caribbean remains very warm as well and the Gulf Stream looks good, though temps near the East coast aren't as warm due to the troughing/90L combo over the last few weeks. Still the temperatures can only be compared with 2005 and the fact we are comparing it to that season is quite a scary prospect. Therefore that is a clearly very explosive signal. EVen if things do cool a touch during the summer, they should remain probably close to if not actually recording the record.

The El nino that was present in the Pacific over the winter has now totally decayed and is starting to get replaced by much colder water with a quick transition towards La Nina. La Nina typically reduces shear and therefore makes long tracking systems more likely when systems develop. I'm currently expecting a borderline weak/moderate La Nina with a range between -0.8C and -1.2C which would put it in about the same range as the La Nina that developed in 2007 and 1998, though the 2007 didn't really develop to that strength till the Autumn. As long as the La Nina doesn't become too potent it should have an effect, though I do think other conditions including the SSTs and other factors probably will play a bigger role this year.

Another factor that is being watched currently is the pressures in the Atlantic basin. The two best long range models (the CFS and the ECM) are both calling for well below average pressure. This is important because it makes it easier for storms to develop and on top of this lower background pressures tend to mean systems will get lower pressures when they strengthen. The 2005 was a classic example of that where the Pacific Monsoonal trough extended eastwards into the Caribbean and Gulf and allowed 3 Hurricanes to break into the top 10 lowest pressure list. Whilst I'm not expecting something quite that extreme, the lower pressures have been present with many of the big recent seasons.

Other smaller factors this year I'm watching is firstly the continuing lower than normal temperatures in the upper Atmosphere. This is important because it increases the lapse rates which help to deepen the convection which is a key factor in helping to develop storms, esp in the formative stages. I'm also expecting a pretty strong wave train this year coming out from Africa with Indian Oceanic temperatures also running well above average which should also help with keeping the SAL down, though I suspect we will have strong outbreaks in July with the ITCZ lifting northwards as systems develop quite quickly, The easterly trades will also stream across should help to provide good condtions aloft in terms of divergence.

If I had to place a highest risk zone I'd suggest the E.Caribbean, The Yucatan south through to Mexico/Central America, the Bahamas upto the Carolinas and the E.Gulf. That being said I think many areas are at much greater risk this season simply because of higher numbers this season.

I suspect a slightly above average June and July with 2-3 storms developing in June and July, with possibly an early Cape Verde type system in July, with a general higher risk than normal of something forming east of 50W at the very least in July. I suspect this will be followed by an explolsive couple of months probably between the 10th August-15th October which could well see a good 12-13NS develop in a 60 day period as conditions look explosive, and even those numbers could quite easily be a little on the low side. I also expect an above average latter part of the season with the maturing La Nina helping to prolong the favourable conditions.

I'll go for a conservative 17/10/5...could be higher if the early season kicks in more than I expect at the moment. If June/July do follow more typical developing moderate La Nina climatology then the NS number could be just a touch lower in the end, but should still be decently above average.
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 21:36

Great Read as always Kold thanks for putting the time and effort into that post.
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The below are taken from Ness weather station
94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
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Posted 31 May 2010 - 21:42

yes a very well thought out post as usual from Kold

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 22:24

Thanks for posting Kold, explains well the favourable factors in a way that isn't too complicated. Going to be an interesting year.
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Thunderstorms 2009: 6, Thunderstorms 2010: 2, Thunderstorms 2011: 2
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Rainfall 2009: 1035.8mm (much wetter than average)
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Rainfall 2011: 585.1mm (dry again!)
Rainfall 2012: January: 56.2mm, February: 14.0mm, March: 17.7mm, April 128.4mm,

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 10:38

I was listening to Joe. B last night on a live streaming show from the US and he made a lot of very interesting obs, it was quite interesting to listen and hear some backing up of my own ideas from a full time met, esp the whole idea of the hot waters to the west of India helping to aid a strong Monsoon helping to promote a stronger wave train then normal coming into the Atlantic...

Anyway here is the link:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7381223
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 09:16

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The above makes me wonder just how naughty the season will be with so many factors conspiring!
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 16:58

View PostGray-Wolf, on 09 June 2010 - 09:16 , said:

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The above makes me wonder just how naughty the season will be with so many factors conspiring!

yup everything is really lining up to be one heck of a season.

thanks for posting that mate.
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The below are taken from Ness weather station
94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
105.9 proof
78.8 mph proof

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 08:54

View PostGray-Wolf, on 09 June 2010 - 09:16 , said:

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The above makes me wonder just how naughty the season will be with so many factors conspiring!

Hi GW,

As others have said, another piece in a jigsaw that points to a busy season. Interesting the way it's presented, no apparent mention of all the other factors. Do you think it's 'reporting by press release'?
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 19:53

SUMMER BLIZZARDS OFFICAL FORECAST!

Neutral ENSO conditions persisting.
Negative QBO conditions persisting.

My offical forecast based upon the MEI, QBO and AO anologues of 2005, 2003, 1998 and 1988 is..

19-21 Tropical Storms
9-11 Hurricanes
4-6 Major Hurricanes

We should fall short on 2005, however a well above average Atlantic Hurricane season is forecast!
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 20:25

negative QBO whats that?
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Isle of Lewis
The below are taken from Ness weather station
94.4 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 23/12/2007 for winter 07/08

105.9 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 18/1/09 for winter 08/09
78.8 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 8/9/09 for winter 09/10
103.6 mph Highest wind speed recorded on the 3/2/11 for winter 10/11
100.9 mph Highest wind speed so far on the 25/11/11 for winter 11/12
105.9 proof
78.8 mph proof